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DaveHawk
08-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Taken from Rush's web site.

I just saw something at RedState.com. Here’s the headline: “If you oppose Obamacare, even in casual conversation, the White House wants to know about it.” Jeff Emanuel put this up 1:45 this afternoon. “If you see anybody publicly opposing President Obama’s plan to implement a government-centric overhaul of the health care system, the White House wants you to report that person (or persons) ASAP. From the White House website: There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to Flag@WhiteHouse.gov.”

Now read this…..

“If I encounter citizens who are being overcome by enemy propaganda, I confront them directly and make clear to them the enormous danger they face, appealing to their sense of honor.

Anyone who becomes a tool of enemy propaganda and contributes to weakening our spiritual strength places himself outside the people’s community. He should not be surprised if he is treated as an enemy of the people and of the state. If all my warnings are in vain, I do my duty and turn him over to the authorities.

I actively oppose enemy propaganda whenever I encounter it. I also do this with foreigners and friends abroad whom I talk with or write to. If I have German propaganda material at hand, I include it in my letters.

If I find or am given enemy propaganda material, I quickly write in large, clear letters “Enemy propaganda” on it and turn it over immediately to the nearest police station.

I do not show such enemy propaganda material to strangers.

I obey all regulations against listening to foreign radio stations, not only because there are severe penalties but also because I view it as an obvious patriotic duty.

I know that enemy propaganda material is an enemy method of warfare.” (1)

The first paragraph is from our White House here in the United States of America.

The second is from 1940 when the Nazis put out a booklet called “What Do I Do in an Emergency?” Of course the severe penalty is execution by firing squad back in the ’40s.

Do you see any parallels between the two?

Now, the quote from the White House states, “Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to Flag@WhiteHouse.gov.”

For what reason and by what constitutional authority does the White House need to track free speech? I guess if you ‘catch’ someone discussing and disagreeing with Health Care, you should be reported. There are other examples such as the Stasi which was established in 1950 and was the Secret Police of East Germany.

“These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to Flag@WhiteHouse.gov.”

This is actually an official government statement and e-mail address, I personally cannot believe this.

What has happened to debate and discussion of the pros and cons of an idea?

1. The source: Der Reichsführer SS und Chef der Deutschen Polizei, Was tue ich im Ernstfall? Eine Aufklärungsschrift für das Deutsche Volk (Berlin: Verlag Hermann Hilliger, 1940), pp. 21-23.

Altjaeger
08-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Once again thanks to Senator John Cornyn:

In a letter to President Obama, U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, expressed serious concern about the White House's new program requesting Americans to forward email chains and other communications opposing the President's health care policies. Sen. Cornyn is seeking assurances that the program is being carried out in a manner consistent with the First Amendment and America's tradition of free speech and public discourse.
Sen. Cornyn's letter also inquires about the collection of names, email addresses, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens that will be reported, which raises the specter of a data collection program.

"I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed ‘fishy' or otherwise inimical to the White House's political interests," Sen. Cornyn wrote. "You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program. As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights."

--The full text of Sen. Cornyn's letter is below--

Dear President Obama,

I write to express my concern about a new White House program to monitor American citizens' speech opposing your health care policies, and to seek your assurances that this program is being carried out in a manner consistent with the First Amendment and America's tradition of free speech and public discourse.

Yesterday, in an official White House release entitled "Facts are Stubborn Things," the White House Director of New Media, Macon Phillips, asserted that there was "a lot of disinformation out there," and encouraged citizens to report "fishy" speech opposing your health care policies to the White House. Phillips specifically targeted private, unpublished, even casual speech, writing that "rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation." Phillips wrote "If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov."

I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed "fishy" or otherwise inimical to the White House's political interests.

By requesting that citizens send "fishy" emails to the White House, it is inevitable that the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House. You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program. As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.

I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House. I suspect that you would have been leading the charge in condemning such a program-and I would have been at your side denouncing such heavy-handed government action.

So I urge you to cease this program immediately. At the very least, I request that you detail to Congress and the public the protocols that your White House is following to purge the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in "fishy" speech. And I respectfully request an answer to the following:

How do you intend to use the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and identities of citizens who are reported to have engaged in "fishy" speech?
How do you intend to notify citizens who have been reported for "fishy" speech?
What action do you intend to take against citizens who have been reported for engaging in "fishy" speech?
Do your own past statements qualify as "disinformation"? For example, is it "disinformation" to note that in 2003 you said:"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care plan"?
I look forward to your prompt response.

Sincerely,

JOHN CORNYN

United States Senator

Sen. Cornyn serves on the Finance, Judiciary, Agriculture and Budget Committees. He serves as the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee's Immigration, Refugees and Border Security subcommittee. He served previously as Texas Attorney General, Texas Supreme Court Justice, and Bexar County District Judge.

Altjaeger
08-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Once again we see the Chicago thugs in action. It goes right along with that "Civilian Security Force" as big and strong as our military suggested by Obama during his campaign.

I heard on the news today that Rom Emanuel called the Governors and other state officials suggesting that they could send back the stimulous money since their Senators and Representatives were critical of the program. Again strong arm organized crime type tactics.

ncboman
08-07-2009, 01:42 AM
the marxist needs a group to scapegoat when things don't go according to plan.

I'm curious how Obama will go about segregating people into them and us?

I feel he needs a crisis in the US to be re-elected and he knows it. Will his passion for racebaiting create the crisis he needs?

Alan R McDaniel Jr
08-07-2009, 06:38 AM
I wonder, can I report myself? and still get the reward, and still get ObamaCare? Oh, wait a minute, I'm almost a Senior Citizen, that might not be a good idea!

Alan

DaveHawk
08-07-2009, 04:02 PM
Alan na you probably would not want to do that. A little man in a Suit and tie will be seeing you soon enough to talk about your options anyway. LOL

Alan R McDaniel Jr
08-07-2009, 05:19 PM
He probably won't like his options either. I am an American First and Last.

Alan

Tracks
08-07-2009, 06:13 PM
I wonder, can I report myself? and still get the reward, and still get ObamaCare? Oh, wait a minute, I'm almost a Senior Citizen, that might not be a good idea!

Alan

I sent a E-mail letting them know I proudly oppose Obama in every way. I'm happy to let it be know to the goons that I'm on the side of freedom in this country.
Let them come!
BTW I'm a senior as well. At my age I don't have much to lose.

TinStar
08-08-2009, 05:29 AM
Well said Tracks! The thing they count on is fear. That's why everything is a "crisis".
I may put an "Impeach Obama" sign out in front of the house. Why not? The Dems had bumperstickers that said it about Bush. What they are doing is a typical commie socialist tactic. They are trying to divide and conquer. Class warfare.
I just love seeing the folks on TV ripping the politicians at these town hall meetings apart.
They are running scared because they see the demise of the Inept One in the future.
God save America!

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

DaveHawk
08-08-2009, 10:23 AM
I want to put anti bama stuff out so bad, I am thankful for a very common scene son working with me, a lot of my customers and Dem's

tincan
08-08-2009, 05:20 PM
send them this one, I did:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s56/oidad/ojoker.jpg

flag@whitehouse.gov

ncboman
08-08-2009, 11:14 PM
:D

Who threw that snowball?

:rolleyes:

Bwana416
08-09-2009, 04:04 PM
when some goon created the SAME image of Dubya about a year ago? They HATE getting the same sand back in their faces don't they?:D

-Ray

ncboman
08-10-2009, 12:23 AM
According to a piece I read on foxnews, it's illegal for casa blanca to keep lists of people and it's also illegal to delete or destroy anything sent to them.

web page (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/white-house-collect-fishy-info-health-reform-illegal-critics-say/)

but they are immune from prosecution. :confused:

perfect ...

TinStar
08-10-2009, 05:02 AM
How's this for a lawn sign.

"Cash for Clunkers"
Trade in Obama!

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!