Is anybody EVER happy with their gun?

[Bwana416]

I have been on 1911.org and I have YET to find a manufacturer forum where at least 40 people haven't whined and moaned about their particular gun. Except for the custom shops that charge like sin (Wilson, Nighthawk etc.) they all get grief. I mean it's like a broken dam. Jeez, these guns are not made in Rivendell by Elves for God's sake. PEOPLE sometimes err and then correct their errors.

-Ray

[LampLighter]

I still want the U.S. model. I think it looks cool. When I asked about it, man you would think it was made by a caveman. It can't be all that bad.

[rimrock]

IT took dis assembly and careful cleaning and polishing, before I was pleased with the action on my revolver but my DAN WESSON 445 SUPER MAG a a great revolver
I was so pleased I bought a second one, (glad I did because it appears they are now discontinued)

[Just a Hunter]

Ive been very satisfied with the CZ's I've owned.

Im sure if you got 40 CZ owners together a few would have something to complain about, but I wouldnt be one of them

[LampLighter]

DAN WESSON

Mattix, one of the bad guys in the 1986 Miami FBI firefight, was carrying a Dan Wesson. Just an interesting comparison that I thought about when I saw you mention Dan Wesson. I was a Criminal Justice student when that went down, and all of our aspiring leo group studied that intently.

I also see you ( rimrock) are in Florida. Have you ever went through Pinecrest area off South Dixie Hwy and seen the Jerry Dove/ Grogan memorial ??

Sometimes one can study a situation too well. Years later, in the late 90's, I got into a code 3 chase in the middle of the night with the occupants firing an Ak-47 out the window. I was a State Game Warden and was staking out an area where night hunting was reported. 3 am in the morning on the outskirts of a very violent city. When I knew they were about to bail, stupid me took out my Smith 4043 and placed it between my legs. Dumb move. When they bailed I hit the brakes and my Smith hit the floor board. Just what happened to one of the FBI guys, Minouzzai I believe, in the 1986 situation. Good thing they didn't fight back with the AK. I never told anyone that before.

[rimrock]

I have very good results from an out of the box EAA 45 acp I carried for many years, probably the most accurate and dependable pistol I own as long as its kept clean , oiled lightly and you use full power 230 grain mil style ammo, (GET THE WONDER FINNISH THAT LOOKS LIKE STAINLESS)I carried that before I had my GLOCK#20 10mm

http://www.eaacorp.com/handguns-witness-steel-description.html

http://www.eaacorp.com/Manuals/witness.pdf

http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/l/aasteaapistolsa.htm

http://www.savvysurvivor.com/gearrevewtangfoglio_witness_series_pistol.htm

it will shoot tighter groups than I can off a bench rested hold, easily 2" at 50 yards with some ammo off the bench, and with iron sights thats amazing
http://www.savvysurvivor.com/OSISCP.JPG

[Hi Ball]

Bwana416-I have only had one outright BAD gun (Remington model 742) that I purchased new back inthe 1960's. I was a semi-auto 30-06, that Remington let go down the line with the wrong height front sight on the barrel. It had a really bad barrel and it would JAM JAM JAM on every 2nd shot!!! It was a real basket case let me tell you.

This rifle would NOT keep a group on a 2 x 2 piece of cardboard at 100 yards off a rest with iron sights or a rifle scope on top the barrel. Remington NEVER made it good and the Remington REP stood me up the day I was to meet in his office with the rifle.....Needless to say, I was not a happy camper.:eek:

I have purchased many rifles and pistols over the last 50 years and the one above takes the prize as being the worst is there is such a thing. It is really the only time this has happened to me.

I did purchase a couple of cheap KEL-TEC pistols a couple months ago but that was not the same color at all. Accuracy was not their problem and they were being feed hollow point bullets by me, which was really not what they where designed for in the first place. So that lets them off the hook as they were not a BAD GUN by comparison.;)

[Bwana416]

was a Ruger Number One Tropical in .458WMag. That thing was TOO light, had a buttplate TOO narrow and with its other characteristics it only made the felt recoil WORSE. I've owned a .375 H&H that I used to shoot for fun. The recoil never bothered me. That Ruger was a PIG plain and simple. Their Model 77 Magnum in .416 even kicks less as far as I can tell. Good stock design and decent weight.:)

-Ray

[billt]

Bwana416-I have only had one outright BAD gun (Remington model 742) that I purchased new back inthe 1960's. I was a semi-auto 30-06, that Remington let go down the line with the wrong height front sight on the barrel. It had a really bad barrel and it would JAM JAM JAM on every 2nd shot!!! It was a real basket case let me tell you.

Hi-Ball,

I had the same POS! I still have it. A Remington 7400 in .30-06. Total Jam-O-Matic! It ran great for 20 rounds, single loading. Then, after I got it sighted in, everything went to hell real fast. The bolt wouldn't close, except if you hit it with the heel of your hand. I gave up, took it back home and cleaned and oiled the hell out of it, and it's been in the safe ever since. I just plain lost interest in the damn thing. Someday I'll get it fixed. The problem with that is someday I'll be dead too. Bill T.

[Hi Ball]

Hello Bill T.!!! I have the solution to your JAM-O-MATIC Remington sir!!!

Trade that damn thing in on a Browning Bar and your semi-auto worries will be long gone......trust me on that fact. I own 2 such rifles, one a .270 cal and the other a .338 Win mag and both will shoot well under an inch with Federal factory ammo.;) :D :D

[Bushman]

Hi Ball, I've had just the opposite experience with the semi-autos. I started out with a Win. M100 carbine that worked well because it was easy to take apart and clean. That one hit the used rack when my buddy needed cash and I wanted his M742 .308 carbine. That was a real early M742 because it has the Tootsie Roll grooved forearm. Never a jam with that rifle, but not the most accurate thing in the safe either. Back in the late 60's dad wanted a semi-auto .308 so we bought the Browning BAR. $167.95 back in those days. Very complex to take apart to clean and because those real early ones had only one spring loaded extractor, instead of two like they have now, the rifle stove piped the empty about every third round. My buddy had one in 7mm Rem Mag. and it was one heavy rifle with a scope on it.

[billt]

My take with most semi auto rifles is they are like women. The uglier they are, (AK-47), the harder they work without bitching. Start with the high maintenance, good looking ones, and they'll act up and give you trouble. Bill T.

[Hi Ball]

Bill-T. I really seldom shoot the Browning Bars, they are just to pretty to look at really. However, I do certainly shoot this new FAL-SA-58 at the range a bunch. Why even with a 9.6-trigger pull, (Wow-ouch!) it lays 3 shot groups that will touch each other and I mean with Winchester factory hardball ammo.
A 4-lb trigger pull will cost me a $150 bucks, if I choose to send the rifle back to the DSA factory.