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postoak
09-19-2009, 03:22 PM
Speaking of new cartridges that seem to have no purpose, I just opened this month's American Rifleman to see an article on this new one. Apparently it is about the size of 7.62 x 39, but with the velocity of the .308.

Bushman
09-19-2009, 04:14 PM
And in that R-15 black rifle platform that I personally find abhorrent for a hunting rifle. It wouldn't be the first time that Remington marketing has missed the mark.

LampLighter
09-19-2009, 05:19 PM
but with the velocity of the .308

which is junk anyway, .......

Ol` Joe
09-19-2009, 09:53 PM
Apparently it is about the size of 7.62 x 39, but with the velocity of the .308.

That`s misleading too. The 30AR drives a 125gr bullet at 2800 fps the same velocity as a 308 drives a 150gr bullet. It does beat the 7.62x39 by 400 fps or so with equal wgt bullets.

postoak
09-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Wow, I'm surprized they would do that, since it will cause people to disparage the cartridge.

Hink
09-21-2009, 11:50 PM
They are trying to give us something we don't have. We don't have a reason to buy an AR-15 platform rifle that is capable of being used for whitetail. Give us a useful purpose for a rifle and we'll buy it. You only need so many plinkers, and varmint rifles. They are trying to stick a viable deer cartridge in a black rifle platform without the weight of the .308 armalite rifles in .308 win. It has to be tough. They might get better ballistics with this cartridge necked down to 7mm, .257, etc. but then again they are just inventing a smaller wheel than already exists that doesn't run as well.

I'd like a 7mm 08 in their 750 or 7400 heck I'd buy one as I like it for whitetail. It has to cost less adding calibers than developing new rifles. But.... If you are developing rifles and the military is looking for something that will hit a little harder yet weigh a similar amount and is similar in overall ammo carrying capacity and ammo weight you can market it to us and the military and write off the development costs if it fails.

I don't mind having tons of options to look at read about and ponder owning. In the end I still get to say yes or no to any product with the opening and closing of my wallet.

Greywolf
09-22-2009, 05:35 AM
what Hink said.

President Obanana
09-24-2009, 06:27 PM
I would like to see if it pans out. If it delivers 125 grains at 2800 fps then I want one, because the AK47 only does 2400 fps.