Huntin the line

[ncboman]

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would you bowhunt deer eating acorns under these trees without permission for beyond the line?

fwiw, it's 1/2 mile to the nearest road in a large remote area. The land to the right of the two line trees shown is leased by a gun club.

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[postoak]

I don't think I would, even with a rifle.

[Twanger]

That's a tough one Bowman. I know there are those that would... and they would probably walk over the line to retrieve a deer that they shot on their own side.

It would be best to approach the owners first and ask for their permission to recover a deer should one run over there... hinting somehow that it also might work the other way if they shot something and it ran onto YOUR side. You know, a cooperative agreement.

[GF.]

Boy, you'd never get away with that in CO or CT....

I'm under the impression that CO provides a buffer zone around property lines such that you'd be on the wrong side of the law there even if you were still on the right side of the line. Probably has to do with an animal dying on the wrong side of the line as a foreseeable outcome....

And in CT, you'd be hosed unless you had signed permission ahead of time or were able to get it at the time of the kill.

There are guys around town in CT who specialize in spine/heart shots, but that sure seems sketchy....


I guess I'd be looking for a good spot overlooking the trail about 100 yards away....

[dave-t.]

Under the right circumstances, yes I would.

I have a stand right now that is a full 22' onto my property. I have another that is 38yrds from one fence, and 28yds from the other. If I'm going to hunt where the sign is, and where I have a decent tree, it very well could limit me to hunting right on one of the property lines.

I've shot two deer here and the miracle is that none have ran over the property line yet. But that steak is on borrowed time.

The biggest issue I've had is that there is no fence between me and the new neighbor, and he's accused me of having one stand on his property, which is not the case, but is darn close. Property lines not running 90 degrees east/west etc. also has something to do with this. When a deer on a death run goes on another property, I'll go get it. I get along great with 2 of the 3 neighbors, and the other one is a nice guy even though he's a duck out of water, and we started off on the wrong foot.

The new neighbor may have been to his back fence twice in the two years he's lived here. He lets me cut firewood on his side of the line, so retrieving a deer shouldn't be to offensive. I wouldn't bother any of my neighbors with asking for retrieval permission, unless it was quite a distance over. I would be shocked if they came to me asking mine. That is not to say that it would be OK for me to hunt on them or them on me without permission, but for retrieval....it's your deer, why add to the drama, just go get it.

Heck I'd rather they came and got a deer on my property, than to leave a rotting corpes.:confused:

[Sabre]

I don't know what the laws are there but here in NY I'd hunt it if I wanted to. If I shot a deer on my side of the line and it went onto the posted property the landowner would have two choices. He could either let me go retrieve my deer or he WOULD let the local warden do it for me. Those would be his only choices within the law.

[dave-t.]

MO has the same laws for retrieval. If the landowner doesn't like it, the CO can retreive it.

Also, none of my neighbors have posted their property, but you still need permission to have legal hunting access.

[Hink]

Not to split hairs but......

I don't see any distinctive property line, fence, or posted sign with a landowners name, address and phone number on it. How in the heck am I to know what a marked tree means or a silver mark from a blue or orange or red. We mark trees for cutting not for a property line. I'd be ignorant of ownership issues if it were me in your shoes NC. Of course most feel I'm just ignorant most of the time anyway.

If there was a line fence, posted signs with name, addy and phone then its different. I wouldn't cross it but if it was a good tree on the line I'd certainly use it and go up it. To trespass is to cross onto the lands of another not climb a tree on the line. Now be polite and position your seat and platform on your side.

I'd like to think there's almost always a middle ground that can be reached with a neighbor concerning hunting the lines, retrieving game, etc. with just about all but the biggest of jackasses or anti's. I've killed them that have died against one such jackasses fence and it made the landowner I was hunting on so happy he fired up the tractor and came to retrieve it for me.

I wonder how many of you have been hunting a new property without going out with a seldom there landowner and encountered areas where you could go and was on that landowners land but some enterprising fellow had taken the initiative to post a section of your landowners woods to stop you 3/4 of the way up the mountain or on the way into some white oak flats. That's why posted signs must be signed with an address and phone here. Not some damn can of paint anybody can pick up at the dollar store.

[ncboman]

This is the boundary to a NWR and the trees were likely marked by a ranger.

The private property beyond the line is not legally posted so I know going in I would not be prosecuted for trespassing, even if I hunted over there and got caught. I just know from the signs out on the road that the property is leased.

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With thousands of acres of land behind me to hunt, I have no desire to cross the line, but I consider every inch up to the line 'my area' and will shoot out to that line.

I might cross the line to recover a deer but I wouldn't take my bow.

[LampLighter]

Get your son to drop you off on a full moon night. :D

[Limbhanger]

Knowing that you hunt in NC... it would depend on the county, as each has it's own local supplemental regs. Unless otherwise locally forbidden, there is no "legal" obligation to gain permission for hunting (without a firearm) - though as you know they talk about "an ethical obligation".

I have hunted on the line many times, but never adjacent to another hunting club. I would probably pass on that one.

[DaveHawk]

I don't cross lines.

[ncboman]

I don't cross lines.

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They do tend to get a little jittery after you shoot at them. Like when John from SC and I dropped 8 one day in one back yard and 18 total in 4 days. I have left that place alone of 2 years now. I'll probably hunt it this year again but may hold off till next year.


fox central. :D