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LampLighter
10-11-2009, 02:05 PM
rifle failures again. Vietnam all over again. I thought Stoner worked out all those bugs. :mad:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,563883,00.html

Rock Chuck
10-11-2009, 06:00 PM
I suggest we arm our guys with what would appear to be the most reliable dirt, mud, and cold gun ever made - the AK47.

Badger
10-11-2009, 06:25 PM
The Direct Impingment gas system was only used on the Swedish Ljungman M42, the Hakim and the M16/M4. The reliable semi/full autos use a PISTON. Ala the AK47, AKM etc. Direct impingement is a system discarded after first use, except by the U.S.

Badger

vashper
10-12-2009, 02:40 PM
"The Direct Impingment gas system was only used on the Swedish Ljungman M42, the Hakim and the M16/M4".
And on French MAS49 - with the same problems

billt
10-26-2009, 05:23 AM
I wish the government would simply stop screwing around and issue our guys these. End of problem. End of story. Bill T.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7665/lancasterromanianak47xj7.jpg

Hi Ball
10-26-2009, 11:30 AM
Bill T. ..........Now have you seen the new one that CZ has out on the market? I took one of these and checked this military weapon out for parts and accuracy. The rifle will shoot 2 to 3 inch groups at 100 yards and is not made out of stamped parts. It is a better made rifle than the AK-47. However, they are a little pricey at $850 dollars US money.

rimrock
10-26-2009, 12:47 PM
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as23-e.htm

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as46-e.htm

two good replacements

billt
10-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Bill T. ..........Now have you seen the new one that CZ has out on the market? I took one of these and checked this military weapon out for parts and accuracy. The rifle will shoot 2 to 3 inch groups at 100 yards and is not made out of stamped parts. It is a better made rifle than the AK-47. However, they are a little pricey at $850 dollars US money.

http://cz-usa.com/products/view/vz-58-military-sporter/

I like everything about it except for the stock. It looks like it's made from pressed sawdust, with a little clear Urethane thrown in for good measure. I'm sure it won't be long before someone makes an aftermarket replacement for it. Nice gun. I'm in a good mood this afternoon. I capped off 50 rounds of .300 Win. Mag. this morning out of my new Savage. Those 12" gongs were sitting ducks at 500 yards. Now a little Burbon on the rocks, and I'm a happy man! Bill T.

LampLighter
10-27-2009, 07:54 PM
Now a little Burbon on the rocks, and I'm a happy man! Bill T.



might oughta fix Melanie one too. Throw Sam a bone.