This is waht we're up against.....

[GF.]

http://www.connpost.com/ci_13581139?IADID=Search-www.connpost.com-www.connpost.com

I can't believe that it's not considered theft of a game animal to deny a hunter the recovery of a legally-taken animal; also pretty shocked that the landowner wasn't prosecuted for wanton waste of game meat..:mad:

[postoak]

Idiots. I wonder if they really DO have the right to deny permission to recover the deer.

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

In Texas you must get landowners permission to trail a wounded deer onto provate property. I suppose permission can be denied. It's a shame though that the tree huggers don't recognize hunters as natural predators. Of course I really don't give a rip what tree huggers think.

Alan


Alan

[Altjaeger]

Idiots. I wonder if they really DO have the right to deny permission to recover the deer.

In Texas yes. And if carrying a hunting arm to go ahead without permission could be a felony.

[ncboman]

I nearly always leave my weapon on the land I have permission for. :D

[GF.]

I nearly always leave my weapon on the land I have permission for. :D


Yup. No sense kickin' the antpile.

Raises a whole pile of interesting questions, though, doesn't it? On the one hand, a hunter really ought to have the right to retrieve an animal, and on the other hand, being compelled to grant trespass privileges to anybody who hunted too close to your property line to keep the animal on the land where they had access.... That could get old pretty quick, couldn't it?

Who owns the land vs. who 'owns' the deer is always going to be a problem, but jeeze, Louise...... Once you've killed it, your claim on it ought to go up a notch, shouldn't it?

Makes me wonder, though, if there shouldn't be some kind of option for getting a police escort for retrieval. Not like many poachers are going to call up the DNR/DEP/DEC/DOW/DFG or whatever or call 911 and ask for help picking up an illegal kill...though I suppose you could always hope ;)

[DaveHawk]

In Md land owners can denid recovery, my son Jarrod has lost to deer to the bozo in one of the neighborhoods.

[postoak]

Once I knew a neighbor was like that, I wouldn't ask permission anymore -- just do it. It's not like they're going to have a firearm and shoot you.

[GF.]

Maybeso not - but don't forget that some of these people are just kooky enough to think that killing a deer is the moral equivalent of killing a human being and they might just 'reason' that you're getting exactly what you deserve.... Which is probably just loony enough 'logic' to get them off on an insanity plea....:rolleyes:

But either way, in CT, you DO NOT EVER want to get caught on private land without written permission on the Official State Form.:eek:

Far better to call for a police escort if it comes to that... They're gonna be there anyway, so you might as well get them there on your behalf.

[GF.]

BTW - I did like the logic that one guy pointed out....

"OK, lady, if you don't want me tagging that deer, I guess I'll just go shoot me another one!"

I wonder how many rotting, stinking carcasses would need to be on their property before you could call the health department down on them? And I still wonder why it's not considered wanton waste of edible meat to let the animal soak back into the earth :confused:

[45seventy]

GF, that's what I was going to say. Report them to the Dept of Public Health and say that it is a health issue. The rotting carcass has become a bio-hazard and needs to be put in that big hole that the woman refuses to dig. Those guys do not mess around when it comes to health hazards.

[Altjaeger]

I nearly always leave my weapon on the land I have permission for. :D

When I was growing up that was common practice in East Texas. Today it is likely to only reduce it from a felony to a misdemeanor.

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

I've known landowners who have fence lines on highways that, when a car/truck runs through the fence they will not allow retrieval of the vehicle until the owner has paid for what it will cost to repair the fence. A person can establish ownership of a vehicle to a greater degree than they can an animal with a hole in it so.................... Yes, it can get old. I have an agreement (verbal, gentleman's type agreement) with my neighbors. We keep stands 50 yards off the fences and don't hunt along the roads bordering each other. It works well when everyone does their part.

This thread reminds me of a situation the my dad had come up once. One of his new neighbors was a tree hugger type. The woman more so than the man. They were telling him about some "Wild Hogs" they had been feeding behind their house. They were amazed that the hogs had come so close, you know being "Wild" and all. He told them that they better shoot them when they had the chance and went on to explain how destructive they were. The woman allowed as to how she could never kill a "Wild" animal, on and on ad nauseam. One day about a week later they came home and the hogs had invited a few friends over and had trashed the entire garden and flower beds and the cat food and anything else they could defile. My dad got a call and the asked if he had a gun and could he shoot the hogs.

He told them that he did indeed have a gun and that he would shoot all the hogs that presented an opportunity but that he would not do anything with them after that. I don't remember how many he dinged before they found healthier feeding grounds. He still gets a chuckle out of the "Fall from Grace" that those wild hogs had!

Alan

[GF.]

The carcass has done R-U-N-N-O-F-T on 'em. My guess is that a black bear wandered through the area and took it someplace farther from the human habitation, so I just hope for the bear's sake that it gets relocated instead of killed when it comes back around, scares the vinegar out of this woman and she calls in the game warden to do something about it.

Actually, I'm hoping she'll call the Humane Society and that when she asks them to come get the cuddly little fellow, they'll tell her to go pee up a rope.

Reminds me.... One time I suggested to a certain female that if I were less of a gentleman, I might just tell her to do that very thing, and - dripping with sarcasm - she walked right into it...

"Well, I think that would be a little 'difficult', seeing as I'm a woman..."

Yeah? Then stand on your head!

[Twanger]

Surprisingly, in Maryland there is no "Wanton waste" law with which you could prod a land-owner into giving permission.

However, the trespass laws here are surprisingly mild. If the property is not posted I've been told by the police here a couple of times that the first time someone trespasses on private property you can't have them arrested. All you can do is have them warned by the police. Then if they trespass again they can be arrested but the penalty for the violation is nothing more than a slap on the wrist... akin to a traffic violation. A misdemeanor. This works against the land-owner and in favor of the perp, but it's about what I'd expect from a blue state like Maryland. :( The ramification of this relative to deer recovery are obvious.