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ncboman
12-14-2009, 11:48 PM
I see a remington 760 gamemaster in the free classifieds on another site and it's in 35 Rem.

I've never even seen a 35 rem in use, let alone shot one.

Any good?

southtexas
12-14-2009, 11:51 PM
It's a wonderful short range deer cartridge! Think 30-30 on steroids!

Alan R McDaniel Jr
12-15-2009, 12:24 AM
I have a Rem Mod 8 and #1 son has the Mod 88 Woodsmaster. If you like a rifle that throws a 200 grainer at 30-30 vel. and will be perfectly adequate to kill anything fro a feral hog to a deer to a Moose to a black bear then, by all means and with great haste get that 760. One of the great little known secrets about the 760 is that If you can find barrels for them, they are for the most part interchangeable as long as the bolt face is accommodating. They are easily changed also. I've got a 308 barrel and a 270 barrel for mine. The ammo also comes in 150 grainers too and I load 200 gr cast with gas checks also.

Alan

Sabre
12-15-2009, 12:52 AM
I used to have a pair of Marlin lever actions. Identical except one was chambered in .35 Rem. and the other in .30-30. I shot quite a few deer with each over a period of years and finally sold the .35 when I realized it didn't do one damn thing better than the .30-30 and cost more to shoot. If anything I'd have to give a slight edge to the .30-30 because the 170 grain .30's gave better penetration/more consistent exits than the 200 grain .35's. Other than that and given equal placement, deer shot with one got just as dead, just as quick, with one as the other.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
12-15-2009, 06:14 AM
I also have a Mod * in 30 Rem (identical to 30-30 Win except rimless) Both companies made up whole families of cartridges based on those two cases, one rimmed and one rimless. Remington upped the anti in my opinion by building their rifles to handle pointy bullets while Winchester used flat point bullets. For these rounds spire point bullets are primarily for the customer and most commercial ammo I've seen was RN. I don't think the deer know the difference.

I'd still get the 760 (but I'm addicted to that sort of thing you know!)

Alan

rimrock
12-15-2009, 09:23 AM
my uncle used a marlin 35 rem for at least 40 years to hunt deer and black bear, he loved that rifle and never had the slightest problem with it, like it was stated above its basically a 30/30 class deer rifle with a slightly larger diam,. bullet, If you hand load its a much less expensive rifle to feed

http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell35RemingtonLevergun.htm

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=35%20Remington&Weight=All&type=Rifle&Order=Powder&Source=

http://www.loaddata.com/members/search_printable.cfm?metallicid=1862&MW=&PM=&PT=

Bushman
12-15-2009, 09:52 AM
I think that the .35 Remington in a M760 is kind of a mismatch. My brother-in-law had one and with a 22" barrel and in a 7 plus pound rifle, why wouldn't you opt for a .308 or .30-06 or a .270 instead? The .35 Remington is a short range brush cartridge that hits pretty hard within it's effective range, but it's effective range is nicely within the confines of a shorter, lighter Marlin M336 lever action. I had a M760 in .257 Roberts for a time as well as a M141 pump in the .35 Remington chambering. Both of those rifle's slides rattled so much that it was something that would give me away to a close in deer, so both rifles hit the used gun consignment rack.

Renegade
12-16-2009, 08:35 AM
It's been called "the other .30-30". I had just read a story about this cartridge in the PA. Game News but I don't recall which issue. It was once a real popular caliber in PA.

purple heart
12-16-2009, 01:37 PM
The 35 remington is just a heavy duty 30-30. A little heavier bullet
with the same effective range.
It does make for a pretty good combo in the thompson center contender
if your into scoped handgun hunting for deer or bear.

Renegade
12-17-2009, 10:07 AM
It's been called "the other .30-30". I had just read a story about this cartridge in the PA. Game News but I don't recall which issue. It was once a real popular caliber in PA.
It was in the November 2008 edition if you can find a copy of it.

Bushman
12-17-2009, 10:26 AM
Given the choice, I think that I'd just buy the .30-30. There was a Winchester M64 carbine Deluxe (the one with the checkering) at the local Gander Mountain a couple of weeks back in their glassed in classic used gun section that was very tempting. While you can buy .30-30 cartridges anywhere, .35 Remingtons you will need to look a little harder for. Then if you are like my buddy with the old Remington M14 pump in the .30 Remington, you are sol. They also made the .25 Remington and .32 Remington and those are rare as hens teeth too. The .35 Remington was the lone survivor of that era.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
12-17-2009, 11:50 AM
I'd love to have a 25-35 or a 25 Rem or a 32 Win or 32 Rem too! Maybe someday. There's reasons, of course, that only the 30-30 (for all practical purposes) remains, and I'd say that those reasons are about a 50/50 split between it being the best round and popularity. America is a 30 caliber world and the 30-30 (30WCF) led the way. Remington to accommodate their Autos and Pumps just took the rim off and trade blows with Winchester using the same gloves.

In my opinion there are few firearms that match the 141 in "Sleek". It is truly a hunter's rifle. It can be carried all day and has near perfect balance. I know the slide does rattle a bit, but that can be overcome, and I don't know that the noise ever kept anyone from killing a deer if everything else went right.

Alan

Bushman
12-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Alan, that M141 of mine was built like a vault before they even knew about stamped parts. It had that screw on the side that took it down into two pieces and that is when you could really see the mass and machining in that receiver. I always liked that curly end on the magazine tube to offset the cartridges in the magazine I'd guess. I put a peep sight on mine with a fiber optic front bead and I lopped the barrel back from 24" down to a more manageable one around 20". I thought that barrel length fit the design of the cartridge better. It was still a chunker and wasn't able to do what so many equally sized rifles could do. My buddy's M14, probably a M14R in .30 Remington is like 6 pounds. That M141A that I had was 7 3/4 pounds and too heavy for what it did. When a mint .300 Savage M99F walked past at a gun show, those pump guns had outlived their usefulness at my house.

1885
12-29-2009, 09:25 PM
Had a 35 Rem in a 760 40 years ago. It was effective on deer. Sold the gun. It would not be my first choise. Have been carrying a 30/40 Krag single shot the past several years. The Krag is a nice balance of being big enough but not over powering for deer. But again there is nothing wrong with the 35 Rem and I like the 760.

swamp
12-29-2009, 09:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.35_Remington

BigEd
12-31-2009, 04:56 PM
I've recently sold my Remington 760 that was a .35 Rem. It was always an effective deer rifle that just wasn't getting as much use as it should. It could be loaded a bit hotter than a Marlin though not enough to make a significant difference on game. 200 grain Hornady's of spire point or round nose style were used and shot to the same point of aim with a healthy load of Win 748 powder.

I've now settled on a Marlin 336 loaded with 200 gr cast bullets. Accuracy is excellent. I carry the .35 for coastal Washington deer hunts and it also goes with me on elk hunts as the camp backup rifle taking over for the 760

Bushman
12-31-2009, 08:01 PM
The most useful .35 Remington M760 that I ever saw was in the used gun rack in a St. Paul sport shop. The guy who had it re-chambered it to a .358 Win. which I think that it should have started out like in the first place. I suppose since the .35 Remington was a Remington cartridge and the M760 was a Remington rifle, the two deserved each other. The Marlin M336 was always the best platform for that old mild round, but I thought that the M760 and the .358 would have been a winner. I'd cut the barrel back to about 20" though. I think that Remington brought it out in the .35 Whelen in limited numbers in later years, but given the choice in a light pump, I think that I'd opt for the .358 Win.

Hi Ball
01-01-2010, 02:42 AM
The .35-Remington shot a 200 grain bullet some 2000 fps Max! The 30-30 Winchester shot a 170 grain bullet 2200fps and the 150 grn. bullet 2400fps. The 35-Remington was by far the better woods rifle for whitetail deer. However, neither can hold a candle to the .444 Marlin which shoots a 240 grn bullet at 2500fps and a 265 grn bullet at 2350fps.....via Hornady Leverlution ammo.

Sabre
01-01-2010, 09:53 AM
The .35-Remington shot a 200 grain bullet some 2000 fps Max! The 30-30 Winchester shot a 170 grain bullet 2200fps and the 150 grn. bullet 2400fps. The 35-Remington was by far the better woods rifle for whitetail.

That's the old myth alright and that's all it is, an old wives tale ! I've PERSONALLY shot enough deer with BOTH to know that as absolute Fact ! The .35 has nothing on the .30-30 when it comes to killing whitetails. It doesn't "knock 'em down" any quicker, doesn't produce bigger exit wounds or heavier blood trails and it doesn't out penetrate the .30-30 either. In fact, I consistently get noteably wider wound channels, larger exit wounds and heavier blood trails with the 170 grain Winchester Silvertip out of my .30-30 than I ever did with 200 grain Core-Lokts or Power Points out of my .35.

Hi Ball
01-02-2010, 01:53 AM
Sabre there are a lot of deer hunters in my state that would disagree with you from the get go! I won't because I don't really hunt with either, I have a Winchester 30-30 pre-64 model but I don't take it hunting. Several articles written by gun rags such as Jeff Cooper, Chuck Adams, etc lay claim to the 35-Remigton as being a better suited caliber for the bigger bucks and blackbear. I won't discuss either other than what the reloading books print and Hornady seems to think in the reverse of your post, manual is from 1973 in case you want to look it up anytime soon. Then again my posts claims the .444 Marlin to be better than both and I'll stick to my guns on that statement!

Sabre
01-02-2010, 02:21 AM
Sabre there are a lot of deer hunters in my state that would disagree with you from the get go! I won't because I don't really hunt with either, I have a Winchester 30-30 pre-64 model but I don't take it hunting. Several articles written by gun rags such as Jeff Cooper, Chuck Adams, etc lay claim to the 35-Remigton as being a better suited caliber for the bigger bucks and blackbear. I won't discuss either other than what the reloading books print and Hornady seems to think in the reverse of your post, manual is from 1973 in case you want to look it up anytime soon. Then again my posts claims the .444 Marlin to be better than both and I'll stick to my guns on that statement!

I've got the books and have read all the quotes from the supposed "experts" and I know they're full of it because I've actually killed a bunch of deer with both. Daydreaming and theory don't count for shit with me. I'd bet the guy who wrote that little blurb in the Hornady manual never killed a sigle deer with either cartridge and was just repeating something he read from some "expert" gun writer who never did either.

Hink
01-05-2010, 08:40 PM
NCBowman

The 760 is a fine deer rig and they don't chamber it in anything that don't work. But don't you have an 06 in a 760? One is gonna do the same thing as the other. Now in my opinion, if you are at a point where you are going to class and style points then hold out for a M141 with the twist steel tube in 35 Rem. You'll take best of show unless you get among a bunch of old timers with pre 1950 Model 99s. in 300 savage. I've coveted the 141 for a long time. Laid hands on one a second after my pawn shopping buddy had and he took it home is as close as I've been to getting one in mint shape. He had two hands on it and I only had it by the tips of my fingers on the barrel. He outweighs me by about 100 lbs so it was his find. It is one of those rifles one keeps walking around money in their pocket for in case they happen onto one.

1885
01-06-2010, 06:59 AM
Alright I had a 35 Rem in a 760 40 years ago and it harvested a few deer. 10 years ago purchased a 35 Whelen in a 7600 and it works well.