What do you guys think of the mossberg bullpup?

[sharpshooter94]

Anybody have one? I have an opportunity to buy one so... I'd probably use it more as a hunting gun rather than home defense. By the way...can you remove the carry handle and put a sight rail on it?

[GF.]

I think you'll be spending a lot of time asking people to repeat themselves.... Why in the world would you want a shotgun muzzle that close to your face if your life didn't depend on it?

And for hunting??? What are you thinking to hunt with it? Something where a decent trigger is of no concern, evidently.....

I don't get it. I'm not a fan of black rifles for hunting in the first place, but this one seems like an unusually poor choice for the job....

[sharpshooter94]

That is the reason I asked. About the muzzle being close to your face... it is the same as a person shooting any other tactical or black shotgun with and 18 inch barrel. The trigger is one of the biggest problems plus the whole thing being "jury-rigged.";) I am beginning to agree with you though GF. The only way that it would be decent for hunting is if you put a quality gun in the frame, like a mossberg 500 with chokes, and took off that horrendous carry handle and put a rail with a red dot on it. But without those changes it is really just a piece of $#!%

[GF.]

Can you post a pic of the thing somehow? I've been unable to find one... But I can't bring myself to believe that the muzzle is no closer to your face than with a 'normal' 18" barrel... Doesn't the bullpup version also have an 18" barrel? So moving the whole works back....what? 8"? 10"?

'Cuz if the bullpup configuration doesn't create an overall shorter, more maneuverable package, then.... why would anybody bother? Purely cosmetic reasons?

At that rate, you may as well get one o' these.... It'd be just as 'useful'...

[sharpshooter94]

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/mossberg_500_bullpup.jpg

If you used an 18 inch barrel yes it would bring it closer to your face, but why use an 18 inch barrel when you could use something longer and have the same maneuverability as a standard shotty with an 18 incher. You would get increased velocity and if you use it for hunting the barrel overall length doesn't really matter.

This video might also be helpful:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrfK4xjvBY

[GF.]

Just bein' a wise-guy here, buuuut..... Velocity gains? For a shotgun?

I'm not convinced....

Now, if there were a way to use a bull-pup configuration to add barrel length as a means of reducing the report for suburban goose hunting (and still have a decent wing-shooting gun) then wellll... maybe that would be a benefit; semi-auto to soak up a little recoil and extended mag tube length for areas where they've eliminated the plug requirement...

But that sucker just looks heavy and awkward. It probably need the handle because it doesn't carry for squat any other way. And it looks like it's intended for use without any kind of sights at all

[GF.]

BTW - that video is really amateur hour, isn't it? The guy running the camera at the range obviously had no idea what a 12 is capable of, and the big, hairy dude looks like some kind o' wannabe somethin'-or-other. Just can't tell what.....Neither was wearing hearing pro, that I could see, and where was the firing line with all the other shooting going on? :stupid:

It's almost a decent concept as an attack weapon, just a really clunky execution....

[Bushman]

It might make an interesting conversation piece, but you wouldn't find one at my house. My Remington 870 is Parkerized with a synthetic stock and 20" slug barrel with sights that makes it actually useful. A 28" barrel with a rib and some screw in chokes makes it very useful for birds and clays. The extended magazine tube holds nine or ten rounds if I want to screw it on. That in my opinion is a useful shotgun. A Mossberg Bull Pup, not so much.

Since you brought up jury rigging, what would a jury think about a weapon like that if in the worst case extreme that you did need to shoot someone with it? It looks way more at home in the hands of a swat team than it would at your home.

My buddy had a Mossberg 835 and it fell apart on him and wouldn't feed shells from the magazine. I won a M500 Mossberg at a DU banquet and I sold it off the next day. Make mine a Remington 870 with a couple of different barrels and some choke tubes. They make pistol grips for those too if you need one. IMO you got it right with the last sentence of your 3/1 post.

[sharpshooter94]

Ok... I think you guy dissuaded me from getting it....... not that that is a bad thing I'll be able to get a more useful gun ;)
Oh about the video... the alternative was a 15 second video of a guy blasting away I wanted you to see the internals not necesarily the hairy ogre or the stupid other guy.
And to Bushman I kinda agree
After looking more at the internals of the gun, I decided that I didn't want to spent the 250-300 to get a posh gun. I really just threw it up for the sake of argument;)

[kjjm4]

If you want a short shotgun for hunting, you might want to take a look at Stoeger coach guns. I have one in 20 ga that I use sometimes for rabbits and grouse.