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Greywolf
05-01-2009, 08:04 PM
I am going to need to buy a mechanical release, first time.
What should I be aware of when choosing one?
I would imagine that the wrist sling type would be the choice for hunters. (?)
swamp
05-01-2009, 08:47 PM
wrist strap is the favored choice for most bowhunters, one that opens easily, doesn't shorten your draw length, one that's doesn't have a trigger pull that travels or creeps, a trigger that breaks cleanly.
ncboman
05-02-2009, 12:03 AM
I'm really not up on the current market as mine are ancient. The tendency among avid bowhunters is to stick with what works and a release becomes a natural extension of the hunter.
As with everything, there is a model to cover all pocketbooks but I honestly don't know of a 'bad release'.
I'd look at the wrist strap hookup carefully. You want it to be quick and easy to put on, comfortable, and durable enough for thousands of ons and offs. Mine uses velcro. Mine also is made of leather, something I dislike to the point of the release being the only leather I carry.
I'd avoid leather if I were in the market again because of associated odor issues and probably should upgrade based on that one chink in my scent reduction package. :rolleyes:
ncboman
Greywolf
05-02-2009, 01:29 AM
Thanks ,
I do see prices all over the map.And would have to agree that one which has same qualities as I would want in the trigger of any rifle, clean and crisp, is a definate plus.
And as you mention, NC , to avoid leather.I always do, for same reason you stated.
I see, looking round, that for the most part, they have cordova and velcro or nylon webbing for the wrist harnesses.
That is easy enough.
But what, should I say which, has the best in triggers?
ncboman
05-02-2009, 01:55 AM
But what, should I say which, has the best in triggers?
That I do not know.
Funny, years ago I knew what equipt all my friends used. Now I doan know what release any of em use. :confused:
I got one local friend in particular I should talk to. I'm sure he's got a good one, whatever it is. :D
ncboman
Greywolf
05-02-2009, 02:08 AM
i'm all ears
And waiting.:D
LampLighter
05-02-2009, 04:09 AM
SCOTT is the Lexus brand of releases.
I personally use a 3 finger release with thumb trigger- only because I shot fingers for years before going to a release and with this release I still used the same 3 fingers. It was just a more natural transition for me.
Bill Gunn
05-02-2009, 05:48 AM
I've used this for 15 or 20 years.
Dosn't make it good, but it works for me...
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21424-cat20069&id=0004642410459a&navCount=1&podId=0004642&parentId=cat20069&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=QZ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233&hasJS=true
Greywolf
05-02-2009, 09:06 AM
:confused:
this is tougher than pickin out a wife, and it has less moving parts!
If I were more up to speed on posting pics, I'd show you mine :D
I got a screamin' deal on the Winn Free Flight, so that's what I got. Ordered it at the same time as that sight I put you on to :p
Anyway, I learned a couple things there, too...
#1 is that you've got to match the release to the way you shoot. The one I bought was not a good match to a string loop, but my local Shop Guy whipped out his Dremel and converted my C-10 to a Loop Hook model. Took him a couple minutes....
On the up-side, the glove really distributes the draw weight; the release is never where you have to go looking for it, and the trigger stay pretty deep in my hand, so I don't give up any draw length.
The down-side to this release is that it pretty well occupies your whole hand, so it probably isn't great if you want to be using the binoculars or calls or just about anything else that you need your hands for. I've learned how to pull arrows out of the bag target with it on, but I have to peel it off to get the shafts out of the block. Handling arrows with it on takes a little getting used to....
First session at the shop, I did pretty well with the Free-flight, but the guy there was so down on it that I asked him if I could borrow his Scott for a few minutes. It was easy to use right off the bat, and he had it dialed to go off just thinking about thinking about it... That was the one I used to shoot that first 1.5" group from about 50 feet, so I won't complain about that particular model :o
I believe the patents on the proven designs have pretty well expired by now, so you can probably get a clone of whichever tried & true release you can imagine, and I suppose a guy could save a few bucks buying the same release made in China vs. the good old US of A. FWIW, I'd say pay a lot of attention to the strap, as well as the mechanicals....
I think the biggest risk is personal preference, though. Hopefully you'll have a local shop where you can try several and then plunk down your money just once.
Bowman sez these things don't wear out, and as much as he shoots, I figure he oughtta know. So I think I'll take my own advice next time and try out a couple different ones, then pay the modest premium for buying local. One release that I like a lot and will last forever ought to be the best option for saving $$ the smart way...
Greywolf
05-02-2009, 12:46 PM
hey there,
So far it's looking like it's a True fire 360 buckle.
Seems to the benefit of having all the adjustments.
A local shop he says:confused: ROFLMAO
Downtown (aka Bangor) is 200 miles. Only go there when I have a truckload of "stuff to shop for". There are disadvantages to living out here. Not many though:D
The 360 is supposed to be good for loops, I hope so.
What did you have to cut away to accomodate your loop?
Thin-taper the calipers, or open inside jaw etc?
BTW, when using a release, where do you anchor? Sticks I used to use index in corner of mouth and string deviding the tip of the nose.
Whith the added length of a release, all I can picture is sticking my thumb in my ear:D
I am looking forward to this as if I were a kid all over again.
Greywolf
05-02-2009, 12:50 PM
I've used this for 15 or 20 years.
Dosn't make it good, but it works for me...
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21424-cat20069&id=0004642410459a&navCount=1&podId=0004642&parentId=cat20069&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=QZ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601233&hasJS=true
bill, that led me to a lot of information, forgot how helpful cabelas can be with thier little "All about" ~ blurbs.
Thanks.
Coming for Muskie Derby this year??
Greywolf
05-04-2009, 06:05 AM
OK then,
looks like the first round goes to Tru Fire 360 Buckle.
Hopefully, it will be the only one.
At 60 to 160 $$'s for the privaledge of trying one out, I won't last long:D
Got the 360 new for 40.00, most prices were $60 to $80's plus shipping.
It was not the price though, that made the choice. But the fact that they have so many ajustments, both for fit and for the trigger.
Kisser button goes where my middle finger used to stop; bowstring should be on the tip of your nose (not the side, 'cuz dat'll hoit! ). I actually cheat to the right on the string placement, though, so that I can look through the lenses of the spectacles, 'stead o' peekin' through between the lens and the bridge of me nose....
I should get more scientific about my anchor, though, and pick a tooth to touch with the kisser button, instead of just the corner of my mouth.
When your mouth's as big as mine can be, that just allows for too much slop :o
dave-t.
05-04-2009, 11:05 AM
I've been shooting the same Wal-Mart clearance sale caliper release for 7-8+ years. Nylon strap with velcro.
The one I had before that was a True-ball.
Mine is a bottom of the barrel quality rest, but the dang thing won't quit, and I haven't seen a reason to replace it, other than having a top of the line release to brag about.
Greywolf
05-04-2009, 05:55 PM
GF
When your mouth's as big as mine can be, that just allows for too much slop
LMAO bud.
Why does that character Ernest come to mind:D
AS IN: Ernest goes to camp. You know the one I mean?
Greywolf
05-04-2009, 06:01 PM
Dave re:
Mine is a bottom of the barrel quality rest, but the dang thing won't quit, and I haven't seen a reason to replace it, other than having a top of the line release to brag about.
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now if I knew that I could buy one like that blindly, I would do just that.
Having never touched on, and only seen a few, i do not know what to look for.
I read lots of good about the 360 and found one at half price, so considered it a good place to begin. And if I'm lucky, it will be a one time purchase.
Bill Gunn
05-05-2009, 01:37 AM
bill, ....
Coming for Muskie Derby this year??
I doubt it, the last Muskie I had in the boat stunk it up so bad you could honestly smell the boat from 30' away :p :(
Reminded me of a ........... But I digress :o
Greywolf
05-05-2009, 04:07 AM
I doubt it, the last Muskie I had in the boat stunk it up so bad you could honestly smell the boat from 30' away :p :(
Reminded me of a ........... But I digress :o
a....aa......catfish!!?:o
Bill Gunn
05-05-2009, 05:24 AM
a....aa......catfish!!?:o
Ya.... CATFISH.... That's it :rolleyes:
Waidmann
05-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Greywolf,
There are two basic types of releases. One is a caliper-type release, and the other is a something else (can't remember the name--it's like a pair of pliers gripping behind the string).
I use a Trophy Pro release, which is a caliper-type release. That means the string fits between two ball bearings. When I pull the trigger, the two bearings slide forward, clearing the housing and allowing the string to slip between them. I've worn out two strings in the past 15 years with this release. In both cases, the serving came unwravled from being squeezed between the bearings, then pulled out. It squishes the string.
On the other hand, I like the release. It fits my hand, I anchor my thumb in the corner of my mouth, pull the trigger like I'm shooting a pistol, and I can shoot fairly well with it. Most of the guys I shoot with in the 3-D leagues think it's ancient technology and I should upgrade to something that doesn't wear out the strings.
The other basic kind of release doesn't wear out the strings or servings because it pinches closed behind the string, and when you hit whatever kind of release mechanism it has, it pops open and the sting releases. It's neater. Plus you can use them with the kind of release that is a small string that loops from your bowstring behind your arrow knock. I have to anchor below my arrow knock. Releasing the string from directly behind the arrow, as opposed to below it is a bit more accurate.
If I upgrade my bow one of these years, I'll probably upgrade my release as well.
Hope these ramblings help.
Waidmann
Greywolf
05-06-2009, 05:36 AM
Waidmann,
Thanks.
I have never seen many, and the few I have seen were the caliper type.
Thus I ordered a caliper type.
I would much rather ad a new loop than a string, a lot less expensive, eh?
Bill Gunn
05-06-2009, 06:29 AM
I use a loop with the Trophy release, why wouldn't you use a loop with a caliper-type release :confused:
I've used the string loops, and the Ultra-Nok XL
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/subcategory/subcategory-index.jsp.5_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21424&id=cat600339&navCount=1&parentId=&navAction=push&returnPage=&returnQueryString=&cmCat=MainCatcat21424-cat600332&parentType=subcategory&rid=
Never wore out a string yet...
Again, I'm not saying the trophy is the best, even though I like mine, and their adjustable for a great trigger pull.
Just wondering why you don't use a loop with yours?
ncboman
05-06-2009, 06:39 AM
My release is a little different than most ...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/ncboman/Archery/Bows%20and%20Equipt/71506gatorjaws2004r.jpg
a loop without the string
That's why I've been reluctant to give it up in spite of the leather.
:rolleyes:
ncboman
Bill Gunn
05-06-2009, 08:37 AM
Greywolf...
Stick around, we'll get you totally confused yet :p :p :p
Greywolf
05-06-2009, 09:18 AM
alright...alright.....
why don't all of you mail me a release and I'll try each one:rolleyes::D
Bill Gunn
05-06-2009, 09:37 AM
GW,
I looked, and Looked, and I think I finally found the PERFECT RELEASE for you...
It's called a DD form 2718...
Greywolf
05-06-2009, 02:06 PM
:o:o
Waidmann
05-06-2009, 04:53 PM
Bill,
Actually, the reason I haven't explored the possibility of having a loop and using my Trophy is....well, because I didn't know you could. :o Most of the loops I've noticed look pretty thin compared to a bowstring, and I kinda assumed the string could slip through the calipers during my draw and/or aiming portions.
I'll look into adding a string loop.
Waidmann
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