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ncboman
05-02-2009, 01:35 AM
sometime back I read this in another format;


This sounds like a PsyOp from the very people who brought us George W. Bush, Torture, the loss of the Bill of Rights and the loss of the Constitution and Fox News. They want us afraid because they know, that we know, that "Arabs" didn't attack us on September 11, 2001. They wanted to arrest Mel Gibson in 2004 "as a terrorist" because he made the movie "The Passion of the Christ." They hate Christ because they rejected Him 2000 years ago and they murder His followers today, like they did in the Dark Ages. A new Dark Age is coming and millions of "Christians" are going to reject Christ's blood for Animal Sacrifices in a new Third Temple in Israel as soon as they blow up the Dome of the Rock.

This is no "student of history" this is one of the very evil ones that just stole 2 Trillion from the Federal Reserve Bank, and 700 billion from Congress, and another 2 to 3 trillion from the Pentagon. They are crashing the world's economy deliberately so they can bring about a One World Currency and then the Mark of the Beast after that. See Revelation 13.

This was all predicted by our Lord 2000 years ago in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 and in the entire 13th chapter. They wrote the book "Left Behind" so Christians would believe that a Third Temple has to be rebuilt before Christ can return, but the bible teaches no such thing. Tens of millions of Christians now believe in the False Rapture Doctrine because of Satan's very clever work. His minions had invested so heavily in the Republican Party they were shocked when a Democrat won, you can tell from listening to Rush Limbaugh and other shrills.

But they should not fear any loss because Satan has control of the Democratic Party as well, and this is his hour, and his program is right on schedule. Nothing is going to "change" just because a Democrat won. These are the End Times, it's all over. Read the Protocols. It's all there ...



ncboman

Waidmann
05-02-2009, 08:52 AM
ncboman,

My first comment is "Wow".

My second comment is like unto the first. "Wow".

I'd be interested in knowing who made those remarks. Can you post the name? Sounds like this guy isn't too far from trying to hitch a ride on Hale-Bopp next time it comes around (if you remember they Heaven's Gate cult from the lant 90s--they also combined wacky teachings with Christian doctrine).

As you probably know if you followed the old Christian Outreach forum before the asteroid hit, I have some strong Preterist leanings, so I'm probably not the best one to comment on the authors overall outlook. Perhaps someone else would care to comment.

By the way, what's your take?

Waidmann

Rich
05-02-2009, 02:42 PM
Gentlemen,

The first sermon I ever delivered was "The Rapture Rupture". There will be no silent rapture prior to the Great Tribulation. Get used to it.

TinStar
05-03-2009, 06:08 AM
I believe there will be a rapture due to what Thessolonians says. (I forget the ch. and verse) It has to do with when that which holdeth back is taken away. I don't think it's the Holy Spirit as the Holy Spirit like God is everywhere at all times. I think it refers to the presence of the church. After it is taken away then the anti-Christ will have free reign to rise and take control.

Waid,

If I'm not mistaken preterism is basically believing that all prophecy has been fulfulled and we have to work our way to the paradise the Bible speaks of. I've gone on several sites and I think that view is full of holes.


TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

ncboman
05-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Gentlemen,

The first sermon I ever delivered was "The Rapture Rupture". There will be no silent rapture prior to the Great Tribulation. Get used to it.

and if you are wrong, what have you done?

ncboman

ncboman
05-03-2009, 01:02 PM
I believe there will be a rapture due to what Thessolonians says. (I forget the ch. and verse) It has to do with when that which holdeth back is taken away. I don't think it's the Holy Spirit as the Holy Spirit like God is everywhere at all times. I think it refers to the presence of the church. After it is taken away then the anti-Christ will have free reign to rise and take control.

Waid,

If I'm not mistaken preterism is basically believing that all prophecy has been fulfulled and we have to work our way to the paradise the Bible speaks of. I've gone on several sites and I think that view is full of holes.


TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

I agree.

ncboman

Waidmann
05-03-2009, 01:43 PM
If I'm not mistaken preterism is basically believing that all prophecy has been fulfulled and we have to work our way to the paradise the Bible speaks of. I've gone on several sites and I think that view is full of holes.

Yes and no. Preterists do believe that all or most Biblical prophecy has been fulfilled, although I don't know of anyone who believes that we have to (or are even capable of) working our way to the paradise described in the Revelation.

There are two main schools of thought regarding preterism--partial preterism and full preterism. However, even within those two main divisions, there are a boatload of individual understandings. It would take far too long to do any kind of indepth discussion about those schools, so I'm really not going to try. I'd suggest that if your curious about preterism in general, the Wikipedia article does a pretty good job at tackling the distinctives. Article Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism)

I am a convinced partial preterist. There is no doubt in my mind that all of Jesus' eschatological teachings, as well as most of the Revelation, refer to the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of Old Covenant age. I'm not willing to declare to be a full preterist, and I, too, have spent a fair amount of time on full preterist websites and see a lot of holes. I also have seen some "leaders" in the preterist movement go too far in spiritualizing the Scriptures (IMHO) and end up in some pretty unorthodox positions (to be charitable).

I'd be glad to discuss my specific beliefs with anyone who is interested. I'm not a trained theologian, so there are undoubtedly points that I either won't or can't address very well, but I think I know the system, the Scriptures and the historical record well enough to at least answer the main questions that may be presented to me.

Waidmann