New Purchase

[StringJumper]

Well, since we have been gone I added a new pony to the stable. It was an impulse buy, I really did not need it but got it anyway just to sratch an itch. The gun is a early 1980's M700 in .223. It is perfect in every way. The owner claimed that he had only shot it 15 times since he bought it and you could not argue that claim based on the gun's condition. Not even the usual handling marks.

The .223 attracted me to the rifle but what really sold me was the stock. It's a dark, lightly figured stock that I hope one day to convert to an oil finish. That would look awesome. Although I don't look forward to removing that Remington finish. :mad:

Looking for a good scope now. I hope to find a good used 4x12x40 Leupold or Bushnell Elite. And I already bought the dies so if someone has a good recipe for the 223 with a 1-in-12 twist then please share it.

Anyone else been shopping? It's really frustrating in today's market....you could offer up a rusty single shot shotgun for sale and somebody out there will throw a wad of Ben Franklin's at you. It's ridiculous.

[dave-t.]

I know what you're saying. I went to a hole in the wall gun store/bait shop yesterday that usually has a wall full of guns, and he was down to just a few guns of any sort left.

[GF.]

You guys are making me wonder if I should be selling.......

I've got a perfectly good .22 bolt that doesn't really fit me and a Ruger 20 O/U that I've taken to a skeet range exactly one time in the past 12 years, and I'm seriously thinking about getting 90-odd% out of firearms hunting altogether on account of the hearing issues.

Right now, the best reason I can give for hanging onto either of those (or my 7-08 Mtn Rifle, for that matter) is that I'm afraid I might some day wish I had 'em back and then find myself hard put to replace them.... That, and I'm a sentimental doofus at heart :rolleyes:

But I'm not sure that those are the sorts of things that people are really clamoring for right now. I'm not as worked up as a lot of folks I know seem to be, but I'll admit that a 12-ga. pump, a nice, accurate semi-auto 'coyote rifle' and a good 1911 (or a clone) all seem more interesting than they did a few years back...

[dave-t.]

GF I'm still hung up on bolt rifles or interesting config hunting rifles and old time shotguns. I have handguns, just don't use them for anything. I use my .22 rifle like I do my pocket knife, always keep it handy.

What my downfall is, is off standard or "old time" chamberings. If I don't get drawn for elk this year and get to keep the tag fee, I'll seek out a .222rem, for no other reason than being lustful for one for too long. Why not 223 or 22/250?....I just don't know, they don't have the draw to me that the triple duece does. I don't even need the dang thing.:confused:

My other dream/fun gun....a single shot low wall or m92 lever 25-20. And I only know of one store that stocks 25-20 ammo.

[Twanger]

If I don't get drawn for elk this year and get to keep the tag fee, I'll seek out a .222rem, for no other reason than being lustful for one for too long.

I've got a 50-year old Savage .222 that is mucho accurate - well under an inch at 100 yds and easy shootin'. Belonged to my father, and he had no need for it anymore, so I swapped a .410 shotgun for the .222. He figured he could bust a snake with the .410 if need be.

[dave-t.]

That is part of the draw Twanger. The .222 used to be the round for bench rest competitions, and set many records in its day. You never hear of someone talking about a crappy shooting .222.

[AK-49]

That is part of the draw Twanger. The .222 used to be the round for bench rest competitions, and set many records in its day. You never hear of someone talking about a crappy shooting .222.


just due to the fact that a rifle is chamber in 222 doesn't make it an accurate rifle, its pretty much obsolete now almost identical to a 223

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.222_Remington

[Altjaeger]

just due to the fact that a rifle is chamber in 222 doesn't make it an accurate rifle, its pretty much obsolete now almost identical to a 223

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.222_Remington

More nearly identical to the old .222 Magnum than the .222. Obsolete? I suspect someone forgot to tell the fox and woodchucks.:)

[Bushman]

My old Sako .222 Magnum was a ballistic twin to the .223 and was actually a better round for reloading because of it's longer neck. Try to find .222 Magnum ammo if you think that .222 is hard to find! What makes the .223 attractive is the availability of cheap and plentiful .223 ammo now that it is a military cartridge. Around here it is just too much noise and too much wind at longer range and there isn't that much to shoot at here in WI. Do you know that the state even has woodchucks on the protected species list. No a .22 Magnum or a .22 Hornet or a .221 Fireball is about all one "needs" around here.

Dave what is the attraction of a M92 .25-20? I've got a nice octagon barreled one in the safe from my step-dad's dad and I've yet to figure out what I should shoot with it. Well put together little fun gun, but what is a .25-20 meant for? Jim Jordan got the Jordan Buck with one back in 1912, but it was far from a one shot kill from all accounts that I've read.

[dave-t.]

It was the .22 rimfire mag and .22 hornet of its day. Rabbits to deer if needs be. I've always thought it was a neat cartridge, and it's an old oddball now, so that intrigues me. Scopes were not at all common when it was invented and used so the short loopy trajectory matched with open sights and fairly small game wasn't out of line in terms of its effective use.

If MO allowed rifles for turkey, I'd use it in a heart beat.

Even so, the .222rem would be a more effective round for target shooting and actual hunting for anything the 25-20 would be used for.

[Smokey]

I bought a Remington 788 in .222 for my wife many years ago. She no longer uses it and I had the stock cut down for her. Guys never do this, they get tired of it and then it doesn't fit you. Both of my sons started using it for their first deer hunts and I have shot several deer with it using Rem. CL ammo. If I remember correctly we shot all of these deer with one shot, but it was a long time ago.

When I use it I tape an old recoil pad on the stock to make it fit. It has always shot 1 moa. I believe most of those 788's were accurate and had a fast lock time. Not the best caliber for deer but it did the job well with good shot placement.

[longpine]

Guns around here in eastern NE are still available with prices going up a little. What is selling around here is primers and/or ammo. I have been able to pickup some nice deals on guns online from hunting forums. Alot of good people out there. Jim

[pepaw]

Ever tire of that .222, let me know. :) We have one tiny cut down Savage .222, and one old Sako. I am in the club that believe somehow the .222 is an accurate load/caliber/bullet. All of the ones I have seen were shooters.

pepaw

[tincan]

just due to the fact that a rifle is chamber in 222 doesn't make it an accurate rifle, its pretty much obsolete now almost identical to a 223

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.222_Remington

I wouldn't say obsolete- I'd by any quality .222 I came across, there were a lot of good ones produced.

Classy round, easy on the shoulder. Like the .221, a little jewel.