Chiappa 1911-22

[bill m]

My Rifleman magazine has an article on this pistol in the May issue. A full-sized 1911 chambered in 22LR. Inch to inch and a half groups at 25 yards. Suggested Retail at $299.
This looks pretty nice and seems to be very accurate. You know what? I think it's beautiful.
Anyone here experience one of these yet? I'm going to look into these.

[GF.]

Why not just get a conversion kit for a .45?

A or B?

Bofum!

[stinky]

My shop has em...for ABOUT 250, if I remember right...and that was for one in desert tan. I've heard mixed reviews about them. But, my Ruger MkII is a jammamatic w/some ammo. And, w/others, it is a tack driving sweet shooting gun.

[stinky]

A reason to get the Chiappa, is that it is cheaper than a conversion any darn fool can tell you that 2 guns are better than one. But, a Chiappa is not considered to be of the same grade as a Kimber and a few other guns (which goes toward a slide conversion).

If you have a match grade gun....a conversion will not fit your rails the same way as your regular stuff and it will wear your rails out. OK, it is not much, but just a little bit of looseness goes a long way to ruining your accuracy...or so some gunsmiths say that believe in a meticulus fit of the slide to the frame. (some smiths don't believe in that as they believe that if your slide and bbl lock up in a very tight manner, TO EACH OTHER, then a slide can be loose on the frame, but the smiths that say a slide must be tight to the frame are adamant about it).

Now, if your gunsmith has spent hours, or more, getting your slide to fit in a very tight manner on your slide, then it probably doesn't matter.

Personally it is BS to me. If your bbl locks up w/your slide (which means that it locks up w/your sights) and your bbl and bushing fit is tight...then I believe that your slide can be loose (a bit).

That said, that cheaper thing goes a long way w/me. (I'm a cheap bass1urd).

[bill m]

Thanks for everyone responding to a thread that was dumped in the wrong topic. Oops. Didn't know what to do about that.
You know stinky, I'm with you on this all the way.
As far as all of the fit anality that goes on, I think it is all highly overrated by most. To the competition shooter, I'll concede. To all others, I'll take my parkerized GI Springfield entry-level 1911 that you could use in the rythym section of a Mexican wedding band, and probably crack more clay pigeons at 100 yards than most: even if they bring $3000 worth of customized Kimber with them.
I think those expensive, custom/high-end 1911's are beautiful. I'd never send one away. But I'd never pay thousands for what a few hundred will do. Never. Of course, I am only talking about my world.
I wish they would chamber something in 22 mag.

[GF.]

If the Chiappa is cheaper than a conversion kit, then I'm cheap enough to go that route.

Unless the trigger sucks or the whole thing is otherwise just a POC....

What's the difference in OAL between a .45LC and a .22 mag? I have a feeling that they'd have to re-build the whole frame to accomodate it. but there's your marketing opportunity, right? Create a rimfire cartridge just the right length to fit into a standard pistol cartridge action and ramp up the power to a .22Mag level (or greater) by using a non-standard powder.

I guess the trick would be to create a RF case that would hold the pressures... Ideally, a cut-down .22Mag case would do it, though....

[stinky]

If I remember right...the magazine is the same size and .22 is shorter than .45 and the mag has a good deal of space around the shell.

I saw something the other day where somebody is working on a .22 mag SA pistol.

[bill m]

for all of the R&D that was done to come up with the two 17 rimfire cartridges, you'd think that there might be some kind of opportunity there.
They could call it the 22GAP?
The 22RF is old enough that I'm sure that there's enough technical improvements in powder that something could be done. Of course, that would impact the cost and probably leave you with a 22RF that wasn't as cheap to shoot. I don't think that it would be more than a 22 mag though.

[Rembrandt]

I did a comparison with the Chiappa and its rival the GSG....they are cheaper quality and look it. For a little more ($340 for the GSG) you can get a much nicer version that will be much better built.


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