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ncboman
05-17-2009, 12:18 PM
Troy -- It was supposed to be a shining example of the green movement -- a completely independent solar-powered house with no gas or electrical hookups.

Seven months ago, officials gathered for a ribbon-cutting ceremony to celebrate the $900,000 house owned by the city of Troy that was to be used as an educational tool and meeting spot.

But it never opened to the public. And it remains closed.

Frozen pipes during the winter caused $16,000 in damage to floors, and city officials aren't sure when the house at the Troy Community Center will open.

"It's not safe right now, and there's no estimated opening time because it depends on when we can get funding," said Carol Anderson, director of the city's Parks and Recreation Department.

That surprised the Oakland County Planning and Economic Development Department, which advertised tours of the house for its Tuesday Oakland County Green Summit.

"No, I didn't know anything about it," said Steve Huber, spokesman for county planning.

Bret Rasegnan, planning supervisor for the department, said the solar tours have been removed from the finalized agenda for the summit.

"It is disappointing that we can't tour, but the summit will still be of great value. I don't think it's reflective of the technology."

Lawrence Technological University, with help from DTE, mostly paid for the building. Its students built the 800-square-foot home, which was supposed to be livable year-round, free from the grid and churn out enough solar power to support a home-based business and electric vehicle.

So what caused the flood?

The city says it was a mechanical problem. University officials heard it differently.

Jeff Biegler, superintendent of parks for the city, said the flooding occurred from a glitch in the heater.

"The system was designed to kick a heater on to keep water from freezing," Biegler said. "The heater drew all reserve power out of the battery causing the system to back down and the pipes froze."

Joe Veryser, an associate dean of architecture at the university, said he heard otherwise.

"What I heard repeatedly was that somebody turned off the breaker during the winter and forgot to turn it back on, which caused the pipes to freeze and then break."

web page (http://www.detnews.com/article/20090515/METRO/905150392/1448/LIFESTYLE14/Troy-s-celebrated-solar-house-left-in-dark)

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proof positive there are some things that can't be taught in college. Spending $900k on an 800sq ft house might be an indication of same. :rolleyes:

ncboman

Alan R McDaniel Jr
05-17-2009, 02:40 PM
I think I could build the same thing for less than $900,000! (an 800 sq ft solar house that won't work that is).

Alan

ncboman
05-18-2009, 01:19 AM
It's really a modern marvel even if it doesn't work.

Over $100,000 per sq ft? :eek:

seems criminal somehow.

ncboman

Bushman
05-18-2009, 09:36 AM
If that is Troy, MI. it wouldn't take a vast intellect to realize that up here in the frozen north that you should not rely on a battery back up to prevent the place from freezing.

Bayrat
05-18-2009, 12:55 PM
"Oakland County".

At least it's not Troy, New York! I should hope they'd know that it's heavy cloud cover for about 75% of January and February there !!

But then you never know ... after all, there are a couple of places of "higher learning" in Troy NY.... and I know a bunch of their graduates. :D

Bayrat

LE
05-19-2009, 09:33 PM
Evidently they didn't check the house on a regular basis. For that kind of money & a so called high tec house one would think they would have a remote temperature monitor hooked up along with other monitoring devices.

Alan R McDaniel Jr
05-19-2009, 10:37 PM
I don't think it was really supposed to work as a self-contained solar system. It was just supposed to make them "Feel Good"!

Alan

Rock Chuck
06-06-2009, 08:07 AM
The web link goes to a Detroit newspaper.

The statement that a breaker had been turned off reminds me of a flood I got in on when I was a roofer. It was a flat roof on a clothing store. We'd had a foot of slushy snow, then a few days of near zero, then it was melting. A drain pipe from a roof drain froze and water on the roof leaked around the drain and destroyed thousands of dollars worth of merchandise. There was heat tape through the drain pipe but it wasn't working. We tracked it back to an elec panel in a closet and the unmarked breaker that ran the heat tape was turned off. They owner said she didn't know what the breaker was for so she just turned it off. HUGE mistake.