Fishing reports June 09

[ncboman]

Opening a new thread to keep things in order. :)

Tue 2 June 09
Fair PM

I fished various spots on the local section of the Chowan river trying to find the white perch but only caught two. A little choppy out there today. My son and his friend fished a creek (Burnt Mill) about 10miles from here and did well catching 15-20 bream on worms and fly rod poppers.

ncboman

[ncboman]

Wed 3 June 09
Poor PM

Too windy for the river so I tried the creek this evening casting a black worm some and fishing with a pole and worms some but never had a bite at all. :o

My son and his friend went back to Burnt Mill and only caught 3 bream but they were nice ones.

ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

Wed. June 3rd. did well, caught 80 to 100 perch on Lake Erie, Brought home 50 for the freezer (this is a re-post for June)...

[Bill Gunn]

Went out on Erie again this morning, had 50 keepers between 9 and 14" in the boat before 8:30, and all in the freezer before noon !! I threw back about 30 under 9".
The spawn is over, the males are still squirting, but never found any eggs at all in the 100 fish I cleaned.
My boat is a fish scale, minnow tail, perch whiff mess http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sick/sick.gif, I'll have to give it a good cleaning tomorrow.

Some guys are having some success during the night trolling for walleyes next to shore, and I might give that a try next week.
The daytime trolling should start to get good in about 2 more weeks.
It's my most productive walleye fishing. Here's a 2 man limit from a couple years ago when the limit was only 4. The bunch weighed 52#'s and the one I'm holding is 13# 3 oz.

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/777751/2652330/30834278.jpg

Now the limit is 5 each in NY, and 6 in Canada (Lake Erie in Ontario, literally 3 min. away when fishing on Erie in NY).
Since they raised the limit, guys have come in with 2 man limits, over 80 pounds of walleyes, from the Canadian side (12 fish) in one day!

Here's my favorite fishing song...
Just go to this link and click on the "Play" button for "Walleye Willy"

http://www.rhapsody.com/pat-dailey/freshwater

"Gimme a Beer, Bait a hook for Me, Fishin's better on the bottom of the Ear-I-E" !!

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/characters/character0111.gif http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/characters/character0117.gif

[Bushman]

Those perch fillets make some fine eattin'. Bill you and the Mrs. must eat more fish than a couple of seals. Don't they get kind of excited if you are over the possession limit in your freezer or does that only count by the day?

[ncboman]

:D

ain nobody countin fish in my freezer so I'd like about 50 of those big walleye if'n you have extras. :)

walleye willy ... :D

ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

Don't they get kind of excited if you are over the possession limit in your freezer or does that only count by the day?

NYS law...

No more than two days legal take of non-salable fish may be transported unless a permit is obtained from a DEC Regional Office, or the fish are frozen, processed and packaged for storage.

We freeze 'em :p:p

I know in Ontario a 2 day limit of perch is all you can have on your person IF there's a daily limit (on perch) for the lake your fishing.

It's common around here to have neighborhood/extended family fish fries when you have a bunch in the freezer.
Our neighbors love me http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/love/love0087.gif http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/love/love0007.gif


We do get a lot in the freezer by the end of summer. I can't remember ever buying fish for home here.
I once had an apartment near Syracuse NY for a job I was doing on Budweiser's refrigeration system for 2 years. One day at the store I seen perch fillets for sale. I bought them and cooked them up at the apartment one night for dinner, turned out they were "Ocean Perch". they were so bad compared to fresh water perch that I threw them in the garbage.. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sick/sick0022.gif

[Smokey]

I used to take my customers to Port Clinton for walleye. Just great fishing. I never saw a lake with so many fish. We got our limit on every trip.

There are not many fish better eating than walleye.

[Bill Gunn]

I used to take my customers to Port Clinton for walleye. Just great fishing. I never saw a lake with so many fish. We got our limit on every trip.

It's the truth, the fishing around here is really phenomenal. You can get salmon up to 35#, and trout up to 40, Walleye up to about 17, and honestly catch enough perch in a week to fill your freezer for a year.
I was discussing this with a nationally known Walleye tournament fisherman a few years back (Johnny Candle from N.Dakota). He laughed and said "This place is the best kept secret of the North American fishing world".

I Said "I know....... and we're tryin' to keep it that way :);):p "

Now if we could only get rid of the worse taxes, and politicians in the United States, NY would be a great place to live.

But I suppose that's true in a lot of places... http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0080.gif

[Bushman]

NC, having eaten both yellow perch fillets and big walleye fillets, if Bill was sending out fillets, 50 perch fillets would be better than big walleye fillets. Now little walleye fillets from say 17-18 inchers would be pretty close to those perch, but big walleyes fillets are softer and don't taste as good imo. I know that Bill is pulling those big fish out of deeper water and they might not survive anyway, but given the choice I'll eat the smaller walleyes any day.

Bill, what was it that turned Lake Erie around as a fishery? Years ago it was a pollution pocket and was not thought of as a great Great Lake.

[dave-t.]

Bushman, I find that true with a lot of fish, smaller younger ones taste better. For me the exception is big catfish. The difference with big catfish, is that they are big enough to trim the fat an dark bloody meat from the fillets, so you get the best pure white meat that the carcass can give.


Another thing about the smaller fish that my dad always used to say "The smaller ones taste better, and I only bring home the best!" :D


I think the other issue with bigger fish is thicker fillets, and it's much harder to get a real thick fillet fried up right, without either under cooking the middle, or slightly over cooking the outside. Even with big crappie it can be tricky. It's easier to just cut/chunk up a bigger than average fillet to get it to cook right.

[Bill Gunn]

Bushman, I find that true with a lot of fish, smaller younger ones taste better. For me the exception is big catfish. The difference with big catfish, is that they are big enough to trim the fat an dark bloody meat from the fillets, so you get the best pure white meat that the carcass can give.


It's exactly the same with big walleyes. Cut out the blood line down the center of the fillet (called unzipping the fillet), remove all that discolored meat from right under the skin, and cut up the fillets so they are all the same thickness for proper cooking. All you should be cooking is PURE white meat.
After that you won't be able to any difference in taste from big or small walleyes.
To do the "unzipping" lay the skinned fillet with the skin side up, and tail toward you. Make 2 small cuts, one on each side, and parallel to the blood line that goes down the center of the fish. Grab one side of the fillet and pull it away from the blood line, it will unzip right off. Then take the blood line in one hand, and the fillet still attached to it in the other, and unzip them apart.
You will end up with 3 parts, the top of the fillet, the bottom of the fillet, and the blood line (that tastes like mud in most fish). The whole thing takes about 4 seconds, and you don't loose anything edible :)

Bushman,

In 1969 the Cuyahoga River in Ohio was so polluted that the river actually caught on fire. That really brought to light the poor shape that the Great Lakes and their tributaries were in. They passed laws on phosphates and industrial chemical discharges into the lakes, and nature did most of the rest...

[Bushman]

That and those big walleyes are the big females that help produce all those little walleyes. When we used to bring home fish from Canada, we always took the biggest ones. Frozen and big, they just never tasted as good as those little milker males that you had to knock in the head so that you could eat them a few minutes later. With the high end electronics we were raping the lake of those big fish and everyone was doing the same thing. Then they came up with that slot size thing where you could not keep walleyes over 18" to eat. We can take one big walleye per license to mount and I do have a couple 31-32" that we could not revive, but the fishing has gotten progressively better since they established that slot size and the bigger fish stay in the lake.

Bill, do you take out the lateral line of bones with that blood line cut too? My fillets on those eater fish look like a tuning fork and then I separate the top half of the fillet from the bottom half. I've never seen anyone else make the cut to get the bones that go out laterally to the side from the spine. Even the restaurant walleyes have that line of bones still in them.

[Bill Gunn]

They have found on Erie that the number of breeders, and the weather have a much bigger influence on breeding success than the size of the fish.
The weather is the biggest factor by far.
Each year they do YOY (young of Year) surveys on the entire lake to get the info needed to set the allowable takes on the lake.
Right now we are mainly working on a very big successful walleye breeding they had in 2003 because the spring weather that year was about perfect.

The amount of fish in Erie is unreal. NYS has about the smallest allotment of perch and walleyes, compared to Ohio, and Ontario. The set take limit for perch for NYS this year is right about 500,000 pounds !!

[ncboman]

We seldom fillet fish under 2 lbs, which is the vast majority of what we catch.

Bigger vs smaller ... only ready example around here is white perch and we prefer hand size perch for flavor over the big ones ... but I'll take all the big ones I can get. :D

I made some calls around to my old fishing buddies this morning and nobody knows where the white perch are. :(

ncboman

[Altjaeger]

My son-in-law, his Army Buddy and I were out for about 3 hours this morning kayak fishing. We got a few hits but no solid bites.

[Bill Gunn]

Went out last night trolling for Walleyes (June 10th).
I got a huge sheepshead (trash fish), and one 21" walleye.
My partner got 2 small mouths, both about 5 to 6 pounds.

The time we do best is July to Sept., so it's just starting....

[Altjaeger]

Went out last night trolling for Walleyes (June 10th).
I got a huge sheepshead (trash fish), and one 21" walleye.
My partner got 2 small mouths, both about 5 to 6 pounds.

The time we do best is July to Sept., so it's just starting....

I am not familiar with a fresh water sheepshead. I have always thought of them as saltwater fish.

[Bill Gunn]

I have to laugh at this sentence on the Wikipedia page I reference here...

"It is also known for its succulent flesh, but many fishermen are put off by its mucus lining and dank smell." http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sick/sick0022.gif http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sick/sick0002.gif

SUCCULENT FLESH ????? Someone has a very vivid imagination, their worse than carp ever thought of being :p :p

We call 'em "Lake Erie Lobster" as a joke http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0049.gif

I never heard of anyone trying to eat one no matter how it was cooked or smoked. A big one will go over 10#'s, and they fight pretty good.
For some reason they contact botulism type E and have large fish kills at times. Then the seagulls eat on them, and they die too.


http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:k55qrxNkEyn4fM:http://pond.dnr.cornell.edu/nyfish/Sciaenidae/freshwater_drum.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshwater_drum

[Altjaeger]

We call them drum or gasper goo down here and they are fairly common. They do get eaten some, but most either rot or get converted to cut bait for catfish and alligator gar.

They are cousins of the saltwater black drum, red drum (red fish) and sheepshead. Our sheepshead are also different than those I see in pictures from the california coast, though of the same family it appears.

[ncboman]

Is your freshwater sheepshead the same as a buffalo fish?

We doan have em here but we do have lots of blackfish (bowfin) and gars. The numbers of gars are almost unbelievable.

ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

No,
Buffalo fish are a large sucker...

http://www.freewebs.com/missouribowfishingguide/222%205356.jpg

[ncboman]

I thought so. My son caught a buffalo in Illinois and it didn't look like the same fish.

ncboman

[postoak]

I went fishing for white bass for the first time weekend before last. This was on Lake Livinston. Six of us caught about 165 fish and we brought back 150 white bass and 2 catfish. These white bass are small (11"-16") and don't fight like the largemouth I'm used to, but they taste better. We also caught some drum, yellow bass, and striped bass, but they were small and we threw them back. (Except we threw the drum back because we were told they weren't good to eat.)

I took my 15 YO grandson because he's never really had much success fishing and I was assured we'd all limit out.

[Altjaeger]

We have drum, buffalo, alligator gar and long nose gar here. Plenty of all except maybe buffalo.

[DaveHawk]

buffalo loo like carp. Is that what they are.

[Bill Gunn]

buffalo look like carp. Is that what they are.

No, they are mistaken for carp, and even called "Buffalo Carp" in some areas, but they are a sucker. They lack the whisker-like mouth appendages (Barbels) that carp have.

Buffalo Fish...

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:Ufekp2IlnpcI4M::www.biosurvey.ou.edu/okwild/misc/images/lmbuff2.jpg

Carp...

http://www.baitbigfish.com/shop/images/stories/elton_carp_fishing_secrets_ebook_cover.jpg

My neighbor just called, we're off to go walleye fishing :p :p :p

[Bill Gunn]

Went out for Walleye yesterday afternoon.
We picked up one about 20+ ", and lost one.
Also got a 12" perch on a walleye spoon!

It was very slow fishing yesterday for everyone, only one boat came in with more than one walleye (He had 2), and most had none. They haven't migrated to the East end of Erie yet, but their on their way...

[Bushman]

I'm Up in Canada now and with the cold spring, the walleyes are still in the rivers mostly. We did get a 26.5" yesterday out in the lake which was our largest so far this week. Today we hit the outlet for the river again and probably got about 50 fish, but all under 20". The water warmed up 10 degrees from yesterday so those big females should be out in the lake where they belong pretty soon.

So far this week the largest northern in camp is 45" and the biggest walleye is 27" posted on our catch and release board.

[ncboman]

Just finished cleaning the mess of white perch I caught this evening. I guess about 15 perch and a 3lb bass.

Took a wave over the back of the boat today, first time that's happened to me in quite a while. :D

ncboman

[Bushman]

Does location ever make some kind of a difference this year. We hit the outlet again today and probably got another 60 fish in a couple of hours. All under 22" though as the big females are probably still headed out into the lake. My buddy thinks that he cracked a rib when he fell, so we need to be pretty careful crossing big water with some waves. These boats, S14 Lunds, are too big to pull up on shore for one guy.

A couple of years back we hit on the solution for better hook sets by using a yellow and orange feathered Fuzzy Grub on the shank of the Whistler Jigs. That fills in the gap between the hook and the jig head and the fish bite it higher up and don't steal the bait so often. They don't drop it so fast either.

[Bill Gunn]

Went out on Erie today, it became tough fishing with 3 and 4 foot waves by 10:00am.
I ended up with 4, a 3.8#, 7.2#, 8.2#, and a 8.9#, biggest was 29".
Their tough to net when your fishing alone in those waves!!

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/777751/2652330/367292021.jpg

They have a contest going (I don't fish contests myself, but have nothing against them), and you can weigh in as many fish as you want...

As long as it's OVER 10 pounds, but their not all that uncommon.

The first 14 pounder gets $10,000...

There were a lot of boats out there!!

[ncboman]

I doan fish the 'contests' or tournaments either. Just a personal issue about injecting money into something suppose to be sporting fun.

People from all over flock to this area for bass, bream, and catfish tournaments, mostly bass.

When I'm fishing on tourney days, I doan release nothing and it burns those guys up. I once even had two guys offer to buy the five bass I'd caught. I fooked with their heads that day pretty severely when I told em I had my wife's digital recorder on right under my rifle ... and the club pres is a good friend. :D

ncboman

[DaveHawk]

Boy are you a trouble maker :D

[dave-t.]

All of the locals around Truman lake hate the tournies.

The tourny guys give you the "gawk at the hick" look when you walk out of the woods and start fishing from the bank. Then they give you the hate glare when you start out fishing them.

We bank fish and use 12-13' jigging poles when the crappie are spawning, for some reason you don't have the feel or presentation it takes when fishing for them from a boat. One day I had 7 boats pull up in the cove I was fishing, with two of the tourny boats getting within 8-9' of me on the bank (I could have poked either guy in the bows of the boats with my rod tip), trying to duplicate what I was doing, over the same stobbs I had my jig over. I kept catching fish, and neither of them did. They just couldn't understand how a doofus on the bank in boots and camo (during turkey season) was outfishing guys in a boat who knew what they were doing. :rolleyes:

I put on a big smile and told one of them "Just stay in the boat and keep doing what you're doing, and I'll out fish you 10 to 1." He left. I had a limit in 45-50 minutes, there were only two other fish caught in that time by all 7 boats.:D

Crowding and other stuff like that could really piss a guy off, if he didn't already know that he had the advantage to begin with. Locals to the lake will give you wide birth or move on since there is no pressure to produce on a certian day.

It's worse with catfishing though. If there is a line in the water it's getting checked whether they guy who put it out is there or not.

I hardly ever fish for bass on public water anymore.

[ncboman]

Just finished cleaning the evening catch. :)

On the way out today I grabbed 4 jumbo shrimp from the freezer and caught about 25 really nice white perch and a couple of cats off those 4 shrimp.

ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

Went out on Erie for a few hours yesterday, but the wind came up & I got blown off.

Came home with 3... a 3lb 3oz, 7lb 3oz, and a 10lb 10oz.
Here's the big one in a 70 quart cooler...
That one was fun netting alone in rough water !!

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/777751/2652330/367559422.jpg


Now I got to stay home and babysit the grandson for the weekend, but that's OK, We're gonna be "Fishing Buddies"........
We already caught "Rosie the cat-food stealin' Raccoon" in a live trap this morning !!

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/777751/2652330/367559418.jpg

[Altjaeger]

Just finished cleaning the evening catch. :)

On the way out today I grabbed 4 jumbo shrimp from the freezer and caught about 25 really nice white perch and a couple of cats off those 4 shrimp.

ncboman

That is a heck of a haul off 4 shrimp. They all come from the shrimp or from bait caught with the shrimp?

[Altjaeger]

Bill, that fish I smell frying?

[Bill Gunn]

Tomorrow...

we're having a little family get together... :p :)

[ncboman]

That is a heck of a haul off 4 shrimp. They all come from the shrimp or from bait caught with the shrimp?

:D

They were jumbo shrimp and I cut them into very small pieces. I think I caught two on a jig I had hangin off the back of the boat but all the rest were from those 4 shrimp.

Funny, a friend put over at the same time I did, saw the 4 shrimp, and was laughing at me for being so tight with the bait. He went up the creek and I went out in the river. We happened to get back at the ramp at the same time and he was like :eek: He had two bass and a bream.

I had my can of worms in reserve but didn't even try em.

Another friend was already out there with 3 others in his boat when I got to my spot and they were pullin em up 2 at a time nearly every time using a rig I've never tried but will. They were using a common bottom rig but had two beetle spins tied on about 6" of line attached to each lead. :rolleyes:

I think they had 141 when we stopped fishin and pulled along side to jab a bit, all of us enjoying a beautiful evening on the river. :)

ncboman

ps, my cam is loaded with several weeks pics but I've been having puter issues loading them since the last virus the sucky mouth fags sent me for postin my views on the perverts. I finally found the installation disc for the cam and hopefully will be posting pics again straightaway. :)

[ncboman]

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/777751/2652330/367559418.jpg

That's a classic. :)

ncboman

[ncboman]

Grandson, Israel, and I tried em for a couple hours late this afternoon. Wind coming down the river kept us from goin to the channel but we got as close as I dared with a little one in the boat. He's fearless though.

I think I cleaned 18 and we threw some back. Some of the ones I cleaned were closer to sardine size than I like but everything's a keeper to grandson and he caught most of the fish.

I'd call the fishin ... 'good'. :)

ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

Went out early this morning about 50 miles from where I had been fishing on Erie. The fish are smaller in this area (resident fish, not migration fish), but it's closer to home. But even though I left the house at 4:45, and launched at about 5:30, it wasn't early enough, they shut off at 7:30 like someone threw a switch. Even the guys perch fishing were talking on the radio how the perch shut off at the same time.
I went home with 3 walleyes, a 5.5, 3.5, & 2.5

I'll be going back out tonight with my neighbor.

[Bill Gunn]

Went out again last night, and picked up a 2, and a 5 Pounder, my neighbor also got a 5 pounder.
Lots of small mouth bass, but they were small, all about 1 to 2 pounds.

So far I'm at 70.7 pounds of Walleyes for the month of June, but it's only 14 fish at an average of about 5 pounds ea. The raccoons, and coyotes are getting fat off of fish guts...

The fishing usually gets much better in July and August. Lake Erie is still at about 60*F around here, and the walleyes like 70*F.

[ncboman]

Bill,

In a way, you're not making me very happy down here. :D

ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

I've run trot lines in South Carolina at night for big catfish, up to 50 pounds.

That was fun !!

[Bushman]

Bill or anyone, you fish a lot. Do you have any theory on why fish can be biting like crazy one minute and they completely shut down the next? I wonder how many good places that I have written off just because the fish were not biting. I can understand day to day or even hour to hour barometric pressure changes, but minute to minute when you are fishing the same water has me puzzled. I've seen the same thing on Lake Michigan when I was driving charter boat and the radio chatter confirms it across the lake. What flipped their switch?

[Bill Gunn]

Do you have any theory on why fish can be biting like crazy one minute and they completely shut down the next?

I don't have the faintest idea :(

It even happens in my 11,000 gallon koi pond. Sometimes you can throw the food to them, and EVERY fish in the pond totally ignores it. Also, you can easily see their favorite time to eat every day is in the late evening.
It may be a predator thing too, if it's in a small area :confused: :confused:

But as you have see, sometimes it's an entire lake :confused:

There is a good walleye lake about 75 miles from here that shuts down EVERY NIGHT at 11:00. Every fisherman there knows it, and fishes accordingly. It can be very exasperating..

One minute you can't keep 'em off your hook, and the next minute a stick of dynamite is the only apparent answer :D

[Bushman]

I've seen that predator thing in action near every year that we get into a feeding frenzy on walleyes. You will be into them with doubles on often, then nothing. A couple minutes later you will hook into a momoo sized northern that has put all the smaller fish down. I think that the struggling hooked fish attract the predator fish. And those big northerns didn't get that big by eating Daredevils. This was the first year that I ever saw a bigger northern hit a smaller northern. Walleyes yes, but never another northern. We don't even eat those.

[Bill Gunn]

I have also seen where when fish were very shut off, suddenly go for a different lure.
Just last week I was fishing among a lot (about 50) boats that were fishing a contest. In NY we are allowed 2 rods per fisherman. In my buddy's boat he had six rods in the water.... He got one walleye. Another friend had 4 rods, he got nothing that day, and only 4 fish the entire week. These guys are EXCELLENT fishermen, I would definitely say they are better than I, the fish were just VERY shut down.
When I went back in, there was a boat next to me, loading on a trailer. I asked how they did, and the guy said "Good, we caught one yesterday"!!!
I was fishing alone with 2 rods, and not in the contest, so I kept my mouth shut. No since aggravating them even more, showing what a 10 lb 10 oz looks like...

When I first went out, I was fishing with worm harnesses, and Renosky lures (like most of the guys were, they are THE proven baits), and nothing was happening. I had a purple Reef Runner in my box that I honestly haven't caught a fish on in at least 7 years, despite trying it many times. The very first time I tried the lure, I had it on for literally less than a minute, and I got a 9 pound 7 oz walleye, so I kept trying it over the years.
Last week after no hits for 1-1/2 hours, I put it on, and had a 10 pound walleye in the boat in less than 10 minutes. I dropped it back in, and almost immediately got a 7 pound + fish.
I used the lure again yesterday in the morning, then again in the afternoon, and 4 of 5 fish I got were on the Reef Runner.... A lure that I dragged through miles of Lake Erie water over 7 fruitless years (I know it was that long at least, because we were fishing in my buddy's old boat when I got that one fish with it, and that's how long he's had his newer boat).
Why do they suddenly like that lure?
Why is it that the one an only Walleye lure was the Rapala, then years later the Hot N' Tot, and now the Renosky's ??

I guess it's why we call it " Fishin' ", and not " Catchin' " :D :D

[ncboman]

Israel and I caught em this evening ... and I've got another mess of white perch to clean tonight ... and I'm tired.

Glad we didn't keep so many this time. :o

ncboman

[ncboman]

8 white perch and two catfish cleaned.

I hooked another catfish, a big one, but he broke my line. I hate the thought that he's totin a bottom rig around out there now. :mad:

ncboman

[dave-t.]

It won't hang on for long. Hell strip the tackle from the line at the very least, so it won't keep him from getting around.

[ncboman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/ncboman/fishing%2009/AlanIsraelAdrienFishingtrip031.jpg

:)

ncboman

[Bushman]

Bill, we saw the same lure change with the salmon on Lake Michigan. It used to be that the hottest lure out there was a lime green or white J-Plug. Then they switched to wanting a fly behind a flasher.

One of the reasons that I'll often switch to a pink jig walleye fishing is because virtually everyone else, including my partner, is using chartreuse. Sometime I think that they just want something different. Chartreuse has always been good, but there are days when they hit another color better.

[Bill Gunn]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/ncboman/fishing%2009/AlanIsraelAdrienFishingtrip031.jpg

:)

ncboman

NC, that is a GREAT picture, how old is he? I want to get my 2-1/2 year old Grandson out (already got him a rod :) ) but I don't know if I could keep him away from the steering wheel long enough to fish !

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2250/777751/1363903/368158278.jpg

We got out yesterday and picked up 4 more walleyes all around 4 to 5 pounds.

[ncboman]

He's 4 1/2.

I doan let him go every time he wants to, sometimes leaving him crying on the back porch steps. :D

I can remember my old man doin the same thing to me, both fishin and bird hunting. Holdin em back a little builds a good fire ... and keeps em behaving when they do get to go. ;)

Adrien likes to play with the boat paddle, landing net, caught fish, bait, you name it. There's no steering wheel in this boat or he'd be into it too. :D

He doan yet understand gettin em while they're biting. When he's had enough, we can be catchin em fast as we can bait and it doan matter, he's ready to go home. I never MAKE em fish or hunt, esp at young ages. It must be fun. :)

We took 2 boats out this evening ... had all the boys fishin. I think we wound up with 25 white perch, one yeller, and a decent catfish. The boys cleaned em. :)

[Bill Gunn]

Nick is the same way with wanting to play with everything. His attention span to any one object is a maximum of 7 to 9 seconds!
I'm still trying to get him to want to put on the life jacket, I showed him the picture of your son with his "Boat Jacket" on, and he was interested in that :)

I just want to get him out on the water first, and I know he'll want to do all the steering, I can see that fight already :rolleyes:

I still think that's a really great picture, he'll like that one when he gets older for sure....

[dave-t.]

Bill, take him to a perch pond, even if it's for half an hour. My 2yr old girl will outlast my 10yr old. I cast out, she reels in. As long as she can turn the crank, she's happy. Heck we even catch some sometimes.

My 10yr old would rather wade in the muck and catch frogs and tadpoles, so that's what I let her do.