View Full Version : Pump action .22's
dave-t.
06-05-2009, 09:34 AM
I have a real desire to own one of these. I have a buddy with a Rem fieldmaster pump action that I haven't been able to talk out of, and another buddy with a mint Winchester 1890 that frankly is out of my league.
Anyone have a pump action .22 or can recommend one? Anyone handled the Rossi reproduction of the win 1890?
This would be strictly an open sight plinker.
For what you want it to do, a Marlin 39 would be my first choice...
Taurus was also making a repro like the Rossi. I've always thought of Taurus as being in the cheap knock-offs business, but I have to admit that that is likely based on nothing of any credibility whatsoever.
That is a rifle that appeals to me, though - I fell in love with it as a boy up on the family farm in NoDak. Wasn't allowed to touch it, which made it all the more desirable, I'm sure. It was in the possession of my great aunt, who must've gotten it from one of her brothers or even my great-grandpa, so it was no doubt the Real Deal, having been purchased by someone either born in the 1890s or whose children were.... It was in beautiful condition, as I recall, and I hope somebody in the family is treasuring it to this day, given what a used one in crappy condition will still bring...
The Henry just doesn't do it for me. Too chunky compared to the Browning design.
On the Rossi... found this... http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=92296
You have to sign in to see the pics, though...
Bushman
06-05-2009, 11:57 AM
I grew up shooting everything with a Winchester M62 which is the visible hammer modernized version of the 1890 that was made 1932-1959. It had open sights and a side mounted Weaver scope which is probably what wrecked it for a collector piece. Well put together little rifle it was too, but that top ejection was always the problem and is what made that model a favorite gallery shooting gun for a a lot of years.
Since I cut my teeth on a pump, I wanted one for my son to grow into too. Then I went to the Fond du Lac collector gun show and found what I was hankering for. A mint condition Winchester Model 61 pump. Those were the hammerless version made in the 1960's. The later ones have grooved receivers, but mine being an early one has a Williams peep sight which is what I wanted anyway. There again that peep sight wrecked the collector value as being original, but a nicer plinker you will not find. The stock is not really designed for a scope, but those grooved receiver models command a little higher value. I got mine for $500.
If you find a nice M61, you will one up your buddy with the Remington Fieldmaster.
Smokey
06-05-2009, 12:01 PM
I bought my son a Remington Fieldmaster pump several years ago as a squirrel gun. He loves it but I think it is a little noisey in the forearm area. Shoots very well.
I also had a Marlin 39 that I really liked. I ran into a cowboy coming out of a gunshop upset that all he could get for it was $25. The little rifle looked like new. I went back to my truck and came up with $37.48, a small Case pocket knife, and two old Craftsman adjustable wrenches. I had the gun about two years using it for squirrel and rabbit hunting. One day at a rifle range I ran into a friend shooting a Ruger 77 ultralite 30-06. He had several two shot groups you could cover with a nickel. Now this guy is a 22 nut, very anti recoil as far as shooting goes. I did not believe he shot the groups so he went back to his truck, got the rifle, and I shot the same group. He had a Pachmayr recoil pad on it and a Leupold variable scope. To shorten the story I traded him even up for the 30-06.
I still miss the Model 39 but have used the heck out of that 30-06.
dave-t.
06-05-2009, 12:09 PM
I have inherited grandads winchester 1897 12g, that is almost an exact match to the win pump .22, and having both would sit just dandy with me. Here's an example of the win m97.
http://www.neaca.com/images/Win_1897_Group_1_.JPG
http://www.micksguns.com/images/winchester%201897%202.jpg
Rough as a cob and has stuff hangin' out everywhere, but still a cool piece of history.
I'm a lot more interested in a older style pump with the hammer, but wouldn't turn away any pump at this rate. They're not exactly common around here.
I have also thought of a marlin m39, I have shot several and they are very accurate. A pump action really trips my trigger though. I have a scoped CZ for accuracy and 'distance' shooting, I'm looking for more of a 0-25yd gun since the scope on the CZ it terrible for shooting something at stomping range. I wouldn't mind practicing and getting better with iron sights either.
Bushman
06-05-2009, 04:53 PM
Dave, it's the M62 then, but with that top ejection it is going to be iron sights only. I nearly doubled the sighting radius over the standard open sight having the peep on the M61 and I like the pistol grip more than the straight grip that was on my M62. That stock was shaped like your top M97. I had a friend up north that sold a M1890 octagon and he didn't realize the collector value.
If a guy wants something he can usually find it and UPS goes everywhere. Last time that I was in Puglisi's in West Duluth, they had some of those old Winchester pumps. www.pugsguns.com The Cabela's collector rooms are another place to look and Scheels All Sports in Appleton had a M61 and M62 in their collector room. (920) 830-2977.
Be careful of those M97's. They were the quintessential duck gun back in the day and guys said that as they got worn they went off kind of when ever they wanted to without you pulling the trigger.:eek:
Hi Ball
06-05-2009, 11:20 PM
Bushman, one of my foundest memories being a young boy, was when our family went to the Amusementpark and I got to shoot those .22 cal pump rifles that were really longer than I was tall. The Bobsled ride and shooting gallery was tops in those days for this kid. :D:D;)
Don Wald
06-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Dave-t.,
I own a Rossi M62 carbine which I just gave to my daughter. It's about the best buy around and is a pretty close copy of the Winchester M62.
Don
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/DWald_photos/RossiM62carbine.jpg
LampLighter
06-07-2009, 09:39 PM
My dad had one for the longest time. It was his dad's. I thought I would get it but another sibling got it. Yall might know what it was- I'll describe it:
On the side, it had a big-headed screw. If you loosened this screw, the gun would separate into two halves.
The top rail would slide back when pumped, and a lift elevator would raise the round in line with the chamber.
Any idea what this was ?
Alan R McDaniel Jr
06-07-2009, 11:57 PM
I have one pump 22. It belonged to my Great Grandfather. It shoots shorts, longs, and long rifle. Remington Mod 12. It was a very used gun I take it out and shoot it from time to time but it's chamber is a bit rough and every round splits the case the entire length. It is a very used gun. I've told the story about my Grandfather shooting squirrels for the road crew with ammo that he took up a collection for during the First Great Depression. Well, that's the rifle he used.
Alan
Sidekick
06-08-2009, 08:28 AM
My Grandpa used an old Remington Gallery Gun that only shot shorts for years. He bought it from his brother for $5. My Uncle has it now. It's a little rough but still looks pretty decent. But the bore....well it sat in a closet against an outside wall for almost 30 years without being used. It was almost entirely plugged up with a lifetime accumulation of gunk. Grandpa never ever cleaned his guns. If he did anything at all me might spray them with WD40.
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