NYC Plans To Trap And Kill Thousands Of Geese

[ncboman]

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NYC Plans To Trap And Kill Thousands Of Geese

New York City plans to trap and kill as many as 2,000 Canada geese this summer in an attempt to avoid the type of collision that caused an airliner to ditch in the Hudson River.

The hunt will take place on dozens of city properties within five miles of Kennedy and LaGuardia airports.

Aviation officials have culled bird flocks on airport property for years, but this will mark a major expansion of the effort into other parts of the city.

The roundup is being timed with the molting season, when the geese can't fly. It is scheduled to begin within a week. The birds will be gassed.

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ncboman

[Bill Gunn]

I don't know how it is in NC, but the geese are getting to be a royal PITA in this area. What they don't S#!! on they eat (Each Goose craps 1 pound of crap per day !!). They will ruin a farm pond with crap in a week.
Golf courses have to hire guys with trained dogs to keep them away. They ruin an entire golf course with piles and piles of crap.
At some boat launches they take over the entire launch, and crap all over everything.
They have opened new hunting seasons for them, but nobody wants to hunt them. I don't personally know a single person that hunts geese, Canadian, or Snow.

[ncboman]

I would hunt them except I can't afford the fed AND state stamps to be legal. Even with a lifetime license, I spend to the limit on permits anyway. Why can't they regulate them like crows or doves?

IMHO it's criminal for the gov to slaughter birds/animals they deny me free access to.

ncboman

[Smokey]

I agree with nc, let the hunters kill these birds. It will be cheaper and the meat gets used. Of course it would take a little planning on where hunters can shoot but I'm sure it could be done.

Hunters are always the last to be looked at in these situations.

[Bill Gunn]

They really are trying to get more hunters to go after the geese.
In NY they've opened new spring seasons. I do agree they should eliminate the federal license.
It's to the point that the large flocks of non-migratory geese are actually pollution drinking water.
They are reproducing at such a fast rate that they are actually ruining the tundra in the nesting sites in the far north because of their numbers.

There's just not much interest in shooting geese after the first couple times you do it. It's like shooting crows, a few guys do it, but never enough to cut down on their numbers.

According to a recent report by Ducks Unlimited, there are now more Canada Geese in North America than at any other time in history!

[BILL K]

I've hunted geese and eaten geese and to be truthful I'd rather eat geese than wild turkeys.
But what about this scheme to rid the skies around the NYC airports by killing a few geese, does anybody really think this plan could work?
I'm saying no for a couple of reasons.
Yeah, sure, go ahead and knock down the population of local geese, but whatcha gonna do when the migration starts, put up detour signs?
NYC airports were built on marsh because it was cheap real estate and whether they like it or not the marsh is home to a lot of critters.
By the way, does anybody know what else was built on the marshes around NYC because it was cheap real estate? Landfills! Now, what lives at trhe landfill that was built on the marsh and is a hazard to aircraft? If you guessed that I'm speaking about the noble flying rat that infests the landfills by the thousands and is commonly known as the seagull, you're right.
So, how much safer will the friendly skies around NYC really be?

[Bushman]

You must be cooking them differently than we did. I had 13 of them in the freezer when I ate the first one. :( Back when I was hunting waterfowl, the ducks were taking a pounding out in the marsh and the geese were either in the sanctuary, the golf course or flying over a hundred yards high. They wrecked a lake up north by spreading swimmers itch with their droppings. I had some buddies that shot them and saved them and brought the breast meat to the sausage shop for making summer sausage. Then they busted the guys for having over the possession limit. Who cared? Now they even have a spring goose season in Canada to try to cut down on the population.

[GF.]

Living as close to all this as I do....

The birds they're rounding up aren't migrants, they're year-rounders-- and they're reproducing at full tilt. A round-up kills an awful lot of birds, real fast. And it somehgow passes for being more 'humane' than a load of steel.

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Around here, people are so screwed up that they'll hold up traffic for as long as it takes for a pair of geese to get their umpteen goslings across the road. Seriously- people will put their car into park and just sit there watching the damn things, which are by now totally accustomed to cars as a non-threat. I've always figured that if they can't get out of the way of a 5 mph automobile, then they're unfit for the damn gene pool...


Nobody hunts them now because you can't get access for it. Whaddya think are your chances of being permitted to haul a boat full of firearms right up to the ends of the runways? That's where these suckers live...

I remember as a kid, getting a special sense of exhilaration whenever we saw a flock of Canadas. And the year I actually shot one? Hoo-boy!

But man, at the rate they're going..... They're gonna have to de-list them entirely and put them in with the pigeons and the starlings and the house sparrows... At least for part of the year....

I have a few reservations about the quantity of chemicals these birds must ingest, given where they live, but if I can verify that they're as non-toxic as my shotshells, I might just try and figure out how to pop a few this year, even with 'just' the 20 ga....

But seriously, NC.... If you can bows and arrows and broadheads and guns and ammynishin, and you can afford to go out to Ohio to hunt deer every year, then I'm thinkin' you can probably fit a crowbar into your wallet long enough to shell out for a coupla duck stamps, can't ya?

[Altjaeger]

But seriously, NC.... If you can bows and arrows and broadheads and guns and ammynishin, and you can afford to go out to Ohio to hunt deer every year, then I'm thinkin' you can probably fit a crowbar into your wallet long enough to shell out for a coupla duck stamps, can't ya?

But seriously why should he or anyone else? This is a case of pest removal, not maintaining or rehabilitating a resource.

[Sabre]

But seriously why should he or anyone else? This is a case of pest removal, not maintaining or rehabilitating a resource.

They should be put on the unprotected "varmint" list, right along with coyote's and woodchucks and such.

[Hi Ball]

Sorry to say, I am in favor of hunters taking out the pests but this will NOT keep others from staying or taking up the same area as there home unless something else is done along with removing those 2000 geese.

I personally realize what a mess a few geese can make of a pond or small area. I once had to take our son to a specialist years ago and this new building had a pond, nice lawns with flowers that edge the sidewalk. It was a beautiful place just to take pictures of all those flowers and fountains etc.

Then things started to get real messy on the sidewalks and steps going into the building, people were being attacked by the blessed geese too. It took them a month of of Sundays to capture the birds and take them to some other area I was told. So I ask, how much is 2000 geese worth compared to several hundred human beings that crash in an airplane because of geese? Piss on those GESSE, OWLS are whatever other birds is causing a problem for those planes in the sky.

[Wismon]

Exactly. The environmental wackos are going to bring us all down if we let them.

I sometimes hunt geese for the social aspect of it, because some folks I know do it. But the social aspect of it is about the only reason I do it. There some much stupid government red tape involved - all types of state and federal licenses and stamps, plus fees on top of that; it just about takes a lawyer to keep up with all the regulations, plus the idiotic steel shot goose crap, etc., etc.

Like you said, piss on it all. Or goose poop on it. It's just not worth all the hassle.

Bill K, flying rat? LOL:D