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tommyt
07-08-2009, 11:40 PM
To all those who support him Please be Honest in your answers
What would you have done or said Had GW Bush done these things
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Read the following and tell me how you would have reacted:

If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco deCuatro" in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the fourth of May (Cuatro de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?

If George W. Bush had misspelled the word "advice" would you have hammered him for it for years (like Dan Quayle and "potatoe") as "proof" of what a dunce he is?

If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on "Earth Day", would you have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If George W. Bush's administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually "get" what happened on 9-11?

If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughedand said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans, would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again 10 times within years, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had reduced your retirement plan's holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura Bush to a play in NYC, would you have approved?


So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all the above in just 5 months –– so be patient you've still got three years and seven months to come up with an answer

Pray Guys Pray
Tommyt

TinStar
07-09-2009, 08:40 AM
Although all of us are hyocrites at one time or another just by our flawed human nature; the liberals take it to a level that is far above anyone else. Had Bush done those things the MSM would have been on him like flies on chit; calling for his impeachment. But don't expect any libs here to "get it"; they are too dense by nature.

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

Bwana416
07-09-2009, 08:19 PM
HOW'S all that "hope and change" working out for you nimrods?:D

-Ray

TinStar
07-09-2009, 11:33 PM
Yeh; they hope they will be forgiven for the bad change they brought our way.

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

Sabre
07-09-2009, 11:41 PM
It's gotten to the point where I can't tell much difference between the Rep's and Dem's anymore. Both parties SUCK big time.

bugsNbows
07-10-2009, 04:29 PM
+1 Sabre. Most all are a bunch of power / money hungry crooks. Throw the bums out.

ncboman
07-12-2009, 01:00 AM
+1 Sabre. Most all are a bunch of power / money hungry crooks. Throw the bums out.

You don't just throw em out. They have to be replaced. The only way out of the revolving trap I can see is 3rd party.

While no party is gonna be perfect for everyone, the Libertarian Party is most closely aligned with my views.

What is The Libertarian Party? (http://www.lp.org/introduction/what-is-the-libertarian-party)

Imagine a Libertarian majority in Congress repealing laws with glee!!! :)

Sabre
07-12-2009, 08:16 AM
You don't just throw em out. They have to be replaced. The only way out of the revolving trap I can see is 3rd party

That's exactly what I've been thinking for years. I think you'll find however, that the American public is too stupid and set in their ways to ever put that plan into effect. They will just keep supporting the same old party they always have until all of their liberty is gone.

TinStar
07-12-2009, 11:25 AM
Problem with going third party is that it almost always insures a dem. gets elected.
Until a third party truly becomes viable it is almost laughable. Might just as well vote for the liberal. Think about it. How many disillusioned Democrats go third party as compared to those in the Rep. party? Want to change a party? Join it and change it from within. We wouldn't have this mess if the Reps. stuck to their conservative roots. The only way to get that back is from within. Voting third party may give you a woodie; but in the end you'll get the woodie back from a liberal Dem.

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

ncboman
07-12-2009, 11:32 AM
Problem with going third party is that it almost always insures a dem. gets elected.
Until a third party truly becomes viable it is almost laughable. Might just as well vote for the liberal. Think about it. How many disillusioned Democrats go third party as compared to those in the Rep. party? Want to change a party? Join it and change it from within. We wouldn't have this mess if the Reps. stuck to their conservative roots. The only way to get that back is from within. Voting third party may give you a woodie; but in the end you'll get the woodie back from a liberal Dem.

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

yes we can.

TinStar
07-12-2009, 11:39 AM
Can what? The closest third party at the national level was Perot. And that helped Clinton. A third party has to almost totally eradicate the far left and make them obsolete before they can run against anyone with any chance of winning. If we can isolate the radical left then maybe we can turn things around.

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

ncboman
07-12-2009, 11:55 AM
Can what?

elect an illegal upsurper as POTUS.

Given this has been done, anything can happen.

All it takes is for us to ban together instead of listening to those who muddy the waters, telling us it won't work.

Hi Ball
07-12-2009, 03:42 PM
Sabre NOT being able to tell a Dem from a REP on capitol hill is not something to lose any sleep over let me tell you. The only difference between the two groups of polititicians is the Dems through you a bone with just a little meat on the end of it. :( :rolleyes:

Those people are so used to having expense accounts and doing whatever they please with TAX PAYER money anything else would not phase then one itota. They DO NOT have the interest of this country in their hearts, only greeed for the most of them and what the people of this country can do for them.

Now take a good look at ALL the money Congress has given to those big banks for bail out and what they gave the Big 3 Auto industry. Now here comes the Chrysler big shots moving the entire company to MEXICO. Why? To break the unions and not having to pay Americans a decent wage, not to mention getting away from the Pension Plans and Health Care too. Our CONGRESS just smiles as more and more JOBS leave this USA. This is SAD indeed and things will get worse!!!:eek::rolleyes::(

Altjaeger
07-12-2009, 07:45 PM
elect an illegal upsurper as POTUS.

Given this has been done, anything can happen.

Until you provide irrefutable evidence its just one more crackpot conspiracy post.


Yes we can!

All it takes is for us to ban together instead of listening to those who muddy the waters, telling us it won't work.

You hire Obama's speach writer?

Tin Star is right that all you do is split the vote and throw another liberal in.. Far better to work for the change within the party.

As far as the bail out of GM and Chrysler they were nothing more than political payola to the UAW that penalized Ford for having acted more wisely.

ncboman
07-13-2009, 10:26 AM
Until you provide irrefutable evidence its just one more crackpot conspiracy post.


Until I see irrefutable evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya, I will hold to my crackpot pipe. :D

Altjaeger
07-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Until I see irrefutable evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya, I will hold to my crackpot pipe. :D

That is why we disagree so amicably.:D

ncboman
07-13-2009, 01:54 PM
:D

tommyt
07-13-2009, 03:19 PM
look up Larry Sinclair and the POTUS

TinStar
07-14-2009, 07:09 AM
I'm not a real conspiracy follower; but if Obama was born in the US then why are his folks reportedly spending millions in legal fees to defend there assertion?

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

Altjaeger
07-14-2009, 09:50 AM
I'm not a real conspiracy follower; but if Obama was born in the US then why are his folks reportedly spending millions in legal fees to defend there assertion?

TinStar
Soli Deo Gloria!

Because people have filed suits and lawyers cost money. Remember that I can sue you for the color of your tie. I may not win and it may get thrown out, but you still need a lawyer.

As Ben Franklin is reported to have said, "The man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client".

Dennis Keith
07-14-2009, 09:56 AM
The lawsuit becomes a moot point if the Obamanator would display PROOF, instead he sends out LAWYERS to keep the wolves at bay till "his work is done."

Grandaddy used to say, if it waddles like a duck, Swims like a Duck and Quacks like a duck, you likely are dealing with a Duck.

ncboman
07-14-2009, 10:01 AM
Because people have filed suits and lawyers cost money. Remember that I can sue you for the color of your tie. I may not win and it may get thrown out, but you still need a lawyer.

As Ben Franklin is reported to have said, "The man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client".

:D

You won't be able to sue me for the color of my tie!!!

I sold new cars for eight years and when I left the sharky waters I left the ties also. ;)

Altjaeger
07-14-2009, 01:10 PM
look up Larry Sinclair and the POTUS

I did. It says Larry Sinclair alledges he did drugs and had homosexual sex with Obama. It also said he was paid $10,000 to take a polygraph and after two 4 hour tests showed deceptive in his responses. Oh yea, just the guy I want to lead the charge.

Look, rather than squander our credibitability on the crazy charges and conspiracy lunacy lets instead focus our energies using the more than ample ammunition he and his allies are already providing so readily. Focus on the concrete instead of chasing smoke and mirrors.

Right now I am reminded of the Clinton's bodies and use of state aircraft and Highway patrol to deal drugs. Also our own members allegations that Bush was the anti-Christ.

Sabre
07-14-2009, 03:45 PM
Look, rather than squander our credibitability on the crazy charges and conspiracy lunacy lets instead focus our energies using the more than ample ammunition he and his allies are already providing so readily. Focus on the concrete instead of chasing smoke and mirrors

Yeah, so we can put more republicans back in office and get a few more years of the same old crap. The two parties have already had 230 odd years to prove their mettle and TOGETHER they've proven that all they're capable of is botching things all up. They've had their chance. Time for a new party that's willing to right some wrongs and wash the footprints of the Democrats AND Republicans off of the bill of rights. How many times does your dog have to bite your hand while you're feeding it before you finally admit it's a worthless S.O.B. and put it down ?

Altjaeger
07-14-2009, 04:22 PM
Yeah, so we can put more republicans back in office and get a few more years of the same old crap. The two parties have already had 230 odd years to prove their mettle and TOGETHER they've proven that all they're capable of is botching things all up. They've had their chance. Time for a new party that's willing to right some wrongs and wash the footprints of the Democrats AND Republicans off of the bill of rights. How many times does your dog have to bite your hand while you're feeding it before you finally admit it's a worthless S.O.B. and put it down ?

Its easy to become frustrated for sure. The problem is there is no 3rd party near viable with the general electorate and not likely to be. The best solution now is to try to remake the existing parties. The Democrats did and now belong to George Soros and Move On. That may kill them and make room for a new party.